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and now

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here's gene steinberg

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i was looking over our show schedule for

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and we haven't done an episode labeled

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since the summer of 2015.

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and then the one before that was 2014

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so it was time and maybe after last week

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i think that

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i don't want to be an egomaniac but you

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have to be one to do radio

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that perhaps we were better guests or

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will be better guests than grand cameron

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he kind of sort of disappointed me and

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you've heard my reasons last week as i

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raising objections or concerns about

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what he said and if you listen to after

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the power cast our premium podcast it

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comes with a power cast plus well i

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spent what five or ten minutes

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disassembling what he said i should tell

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you that this is the second take

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of the first part of this episode

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because as soon as i asked chris to

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speak we heard all this horrible white

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noise on the line

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be thankful you didn't hear it it

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assaults your ears chris

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there were a couple of people that said

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we were surprised that chris didn't jump

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in there and start you know carving him

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a new one well you don't

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have guests on a show uh well let's put

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it this way it's hard to get guests on a

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show if both hosts are beating up on the

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gene you were doing a good job

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disassembling his arguments and

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there was no need for me to pile on and

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and make him uncomfortable um you know

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we're trying to keep this as civil as

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possible

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unless you know it's obvious that the

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guest really doesn't deserve the

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civility but

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you know i i really appreciate the the

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work that grant does i think he's overly

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enthusiastic i think he tends to

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um gloss over things i think he he kind

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of has a

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pair of rose-colored glasses on whatever

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the uh the cliche is and and

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you know anybody that

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can accept anything that paul hellyer

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uh at face value

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uh to me is is highly suspect and

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you know i was really going to launch

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into a paul hellyer thing but um i it

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just you know what's the point i mean

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the guy is who he is he believes what he

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and um you know he's carved a nice

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little niche out for himself in the

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field and

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you know he likes to be uh to be mr you

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know presidential ufo expert so you know

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whatever

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yes and i also saw an item posted in our

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forums that he also supports stan

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but the key is here

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because somebody has wacky viewpoints

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doesn't make them a bad person

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and even then you can't agree 100 with

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everyone and we all hold viewpoints that

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may in some respects be wacky to other

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talking favorably about ufos

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is wacky to some people

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so the point is here i don't hate grant

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cameron

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at all

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i talked about what he had to say

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not about who he is

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because i've seen no evidence he isn't

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anything but a good person and i'll

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assume that i'll assume that if i see

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him anywhere in a ufo convention or

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something i'll shake his hand

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take him out for a diet coke or

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something because i don't drink beer or

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buy him a beer if that's what he wants

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i think it's possible to get along

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and

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still disagree with people now i realize

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that a prior co-host of the power cast

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was more into demonizing people than we

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are

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but i think we get the point across

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and that's all that counts

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well you're not going to keep much of an

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audience

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that's actually open-minded and

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you know has tendencies towards uh you

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know solutions as opposed to

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exacerbating the problem um you're not

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going to keep

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that kind of an audience

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uh very long if you're constantly

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bashing your guess i mean you know it

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it's just not the way i am um

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i don't suffer fools gladly as you don't

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gene and and i i do appreciate

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you know the quality of work that many

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of our guests bring to the table and um

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i'm not going to be constantly looking

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for every little in the armor to

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on possible fuzzy logic or whatever um

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if if it's not warranted i

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if it's warranted sure you know i i do

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disbelief to a certain extent on on the

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you know to keep it entertaining

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but at the same time you know you got to

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you got to call the bs when you see it

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so and that's what we attempt to do here

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and i think we do a good job

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and once again this is not worldwide

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wrestling

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okay it's not howard stern i'm not

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howard stern

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former co-host who was a great person a

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really talented person

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such as the guy who hung up in 30

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we talked facts to him we didn't scream

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there we go if you didn't hear my

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takedown or my

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disassembling of some of the things that

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grant cameron was talking about

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go listen to after the powercast to be

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able to do that you've got to be a

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we have some fascinating guests coming

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up in the near future and next week

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we're going to talk about monsters

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these are not monsters running for

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president of the u.s although some

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people might disagree with that it's a

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book called monsters among us an

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exploration of otherworldly bigfoots

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wolf men

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portals phantoms and odd phenomena

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that's for linda godfriend she's always

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a lot of fun to talk to

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she'll be here next week

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also nick redfearn has a new book out

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about the women in black

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and he'll be coming on soon to talk

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about that and possibly in the next

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month or two we may even hear from jim

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mars we came close to scheduling him but

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he's finishing a book and i think he

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that's how you go so we've got a lot of

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fascinating things to talk about

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and we will continue this but speaking

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of the political connection let me just

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to talk extensively about politics i

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realize that freaks people although as

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soon as you talk about presidential ufos

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and disclosure

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what is it if not politics but somebody

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sent a letter on facebook posted a

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message saying they would not subscribe

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to the power cast plus

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because i put down donald trump

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so let's be equal opportunity offenders

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here chris do you think it would be

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better if i called him

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oh i don't know lion trump and crooked

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hillary

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that an equal opportunity offender um

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i mean let's get real the guy is a

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narcissistic egomaniac but other than

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that uh yeah he's presidential material

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well they're telling us now that he's

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going to moderate

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for the public at large he will moderate

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any day now you know it's like he reads

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a speech i'm not going to comment about

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the accuracy or lack thereof maybe i

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but he gives a speech from a

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teleprompter now of course he used to

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say i don't give speeches from

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teleprompter like barack obama

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he gave a couple of speeches on the

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teleprompter then he deviates from the

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teleprompter when he does a live

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political rally and he's back to the old

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guy again

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so i don't know there

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yeah old dog

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new tricks i'm not sure uh

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i almost have this kind of weird

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fascination uh of what a trump

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presidency would be like it's almost

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like you know rubbernecking had a you

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know really bad accident on the freeway

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this could be a late night comic heaven

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a trump administration if we survive i

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mean the guy's got the nuclear football

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at his beck and call

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and god forbid you know some world

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leader somewhere should talk about the

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size of his hands or you know take him

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off somehow and

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you just don't know i mean the guy has

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ultimate power and we know what ultimate

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absolutely you know i read a story

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trump simply

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took all the money he got from his

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father not just the original million or

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whatever but everything after his father

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he'd be worth more money now just to sit

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and let the investments grow we got more

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of this stuff coming on

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distributor and user of longevity

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products in the last few years my family

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is getting back to normal now but the

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my business and my monthly commission

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i've been a distributor for youngevity

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for over 17 years since before it was

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amazing thing about this company is the

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people while my family was in crisis

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other distributors stepped in and helped

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my customers simply because that's what

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youngevity people do even for people

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they don't know for me it has never been

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about getting rich it was about a

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product i could stand behind a company i

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could count on and a monthly commission

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in 17 years youngevity is truly a

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business for everyone even people who

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have too much to do i'm sophie winik i'm

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just like you i have a real life real

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ups and downs but i know i will always

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have longevity

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this is dan pillett do you have the irs

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money you can't pay are tax debts

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crippling you i've defended people from

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the irs for over 30 years i've helped

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telling you there's no such thing as a

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we'd like to hear from you if you have a

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comment or question about the paracast

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that's news

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cast dot com and don't forget to visit

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gene and chris talk shop on the power

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cast and we got a little political there

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but let me change that a little bit

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about the argument that if rich people

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would simply invest the money

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in normal channels the stock market or

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whatever

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and not try to start companies or get

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their name famous or become

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people who could say you're fired on tv

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they'd make more money i'll give you one

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example of that in the ufo field okay

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jim mosley

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a trust fund baby

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his mom was

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the heir to a steamship line fortune

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and he made a fair amount of money i

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think maybe a couple of million dollars

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or so

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this is 1950s dollars which has got to

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be what 10 15 million dollars now pretty

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decent he's not quite the one percent

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maybe the one and a half percent so if

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jim simply let the money accrue in the

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investments and just take what he needed

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without being too extravagant and jim

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was never an extravagant person never

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had a really fancy car or lived in a

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very expensive place

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if he had done that he would have died

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with a lot more money than he had

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but by

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trying to invest things in the stock

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market himself rather than use the

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built-in investments from the trust fund

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buying real estate

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he bought

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a couple of small apartment complexes

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you know like four

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units and tried to become jim mosley the

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landlord

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every one of these things failed

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if he had just left well enough alone

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there would have been more money there

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and maybe through his life he could have

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had a somewhat more lucrative lifestyle

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so think about that

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this is about the second generation

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of the rich families

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you think sometimes the first generation

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these are the people who earned the

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fortunes

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you know like joseph kennedy earned the

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fortune so his kids could run for

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president or congress or something

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and of course

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the bush family is very much like that

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i don't know much more about it because

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i had one relative

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who i think would have become that

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person to build wealth in the family

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if he had lived another 10 years

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that was my brother wally

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he was on the verge

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i think just a few years hence he would

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have been worth

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hundreds of millions of dollars

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but he just died a few years too soon so

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i don't know what that means

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does that mean anything i don't know

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because we shouldn't say just because

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somebody is born of a rich

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family that they're useless they're not

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i don't think jim mosley was useless

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maybe his investments didn't

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really

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go in the direction that he hoped

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well the reverse is also true just

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because you're born of a rich family

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doesn't know that you know what the hell

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you're doing

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as they say sometimes you should just

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leave well enough alone

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and not assume you're

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more than you are

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you know i understand that

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someone wants an image of self-worth and

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it maybe you don't feel the self-worth

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if you go around depending on

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daddy or mommy's

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trust fund you know like a kardashian or

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something

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you don't want to be that way you want

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to carve out your own place in society

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and i think that's what the kennedy

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family has done traditionally

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to use the fact of their wealth to put

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them in a place where they don't need to

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earn a lot of money

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and they could run for political offices

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and do what they consider a good things

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i hope does that make sense to anybody i

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don't know as i said the closest we had

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in the family to

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being very wealthy was

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my brother who died

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a few years too early any rich people in

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the

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o'brien family or in your in your birth

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parents family

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yes

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actually

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you missed out

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well i got written out actually i was

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part of the original trust

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my adopted parents but

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after my

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mother's very suspicious death and my

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my father marrying

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their best friend in less than six

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months

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somehow the trust was totally rewritten

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and my brother and i were written out of

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it

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and um

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the o'brien's uh

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we're worth

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a lot of money

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shall we say

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i just you know it's funny you should

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mention this i just got

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a notice from my brother's widow that uh

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that my

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stepmom had died two weeks ago and

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that i was being sent some papers about

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the trust and i'm wondering why are they

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sending me

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trust information if i'm

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if i've been written out of the trust i

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find that very interesting i might have

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to

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retain counsel and find out if there's

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some little side door i could slip in

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well when you get the papers just take a

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look first before you hire the lawyer

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right of course but the thing is here

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did you get along well with your adopted

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mother

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yeah i did very well

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maybe she put you in her will

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um i probably would have known she died

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96 i think or 95. i i would have known i

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was in the trust see everything was put

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into a trust and uh

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of course my stepsisters have

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totally

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disappeared

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um they disowned you

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huh

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they disowned you

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it's a long story gene but um families

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or families is also yeah

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nobody disowned me i think they

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supported my dad's decision because that

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meant that there was twice twice as much

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for them

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did you have a problem with your dad at

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all

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oh yeah he was an abusive uh

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mfr

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i remanded myself back into state care

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at 15.

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well that explains a lot what about your

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brother

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oh

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yeah he was dealing acid and um

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just he was a real cut up had lots of

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lots of issues lots of emotional

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problems and

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you know it's hard to hard to be a

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little kid and you know being a

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physically abusive uh

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foster you know adopted home

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that's all you need it's bad enough if

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your birth parents

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are nasty people

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but being adopted how did you come to be

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adopted by these people

565
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well my parents were like uh wannabe

566
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:08,799
bonnie and clydes i mean they were bank

567
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robbers and motorcycle writers and

568
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my mom designed all their own tattoos in

569
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the 50s and

570
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:18,960
she was a meth dealer in her

571
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:21,440
late 60s early 70s and she's just a wild

572
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:22,799
woman

573
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,950
well um you know my real birth family on

574
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,640
my mom's side at least i know very

575
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:32,320
little about my dad's side but my real

576
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birth family is um

577
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i think um four four or five generations

578
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of californians um

579
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:43,039
hundreds of relatives on that side but

580
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um

581
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so i don't know uh

582
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,080
it probably turned out for the best um

583
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:51,840
i would not be the uh

584
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:55,520
effervescent personality that i am today

585
00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:58,720
put it that way if um i hadn't been

586
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:02,000
taken away by by the state and put into

587
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you know

588
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:04,720
foster care

589
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,240
you might become a bank robber yourself

590
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:11,039
well i don't know about that um

591
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:12,159
i definitely would have had a much

592
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:13,440
different life yeah i would have had a

593
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:14,799
much different life if i hadn't left

594
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home

595
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,600
of course it was my sisters that talked

596
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:19,440
me into leaving home so they may have

597
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,559
had

598
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:23,120
ulterior motives even even as far back

599
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,720
as the uh

600
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,400
you know when i was

601
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a kid 15.

602
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,080
these are your stepsisters

603
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,120
yeah okay so they basically

604
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,039
encouraged you to make this momentous

605
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:37,600
decision right but then my older sister

606
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,720
um

607
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:40,960
took me in when i you know my first

608
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:43,280
couple years of college so i lived with

609
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with her and my brother-in-law in new

610
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york city uh when i was starting out in

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college

612
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sounds like a good outcome we've got

613
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gene and chris shop talking away you're

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[Applause]

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hi this is joshua p warren author of the

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poor man's paranormal and you're

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[Music]

727
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:35,990
so there you go chris has a certainly

728
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,400
interesting background probably make

729
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,240
a biography somewhere

730
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:42,159
my background was much much more

731
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,679
conventional

732
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,360
i had traditional

733
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,360
jewish family my father was ralph

734
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,159
kramden in a sense he was a bus driver

735
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,080
although he later on because he was a

736
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:54,559
bright guy he took various tests and

737
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,840
became

738
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,919
an executive in the new york city

739
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,559
transit system my mother stayed at home

740
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,399
most of the time but as we got older she

741
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,159
decided to go outside

742
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,480
the home and she had

743
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,880
experiences of receptionist and typist

744
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,120
and clerical work in fact that's how i

745
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:13,120
learned how i type by the way my mother

746
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,240
was a typist and i said how do i do that

747
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,320
and she said this way and then she got

748
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,480
me a typewriter and i don't know what

749
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,600
that meant

750
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,200
but somehow it took me to all these

751
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,919
highways and byways but as i said

752
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,000
fairly conventional upbringing from a

753
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,880
traditional middle class jewish family

754
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,559
in brooklyn new york

755
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:35,120
growing up in the 50s and 60s at the age

756
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:36,720
of 21

757
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,919
i left home i said i will leave at 21

758
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,399
and i did and i got a job in radio

759
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:45,600
like a week thereafter and here i am

760
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,039
what does that mean i have no idea

761
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,520
oh well life marches on dude well yeah

762
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,279
my age it doesn't

763
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,880
march on for very much longer but there

764
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,840
we are

765
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,080
i got a letter the other day chris to

766
00:29:02,549 --> 00:28:59,840
move into other subjects in our life

767
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,559
histories and bore people to death got a

768
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,080
letter the other day

769
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240
remarking on your

770
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:09,120
greater acceptance the possibility

771
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,559
that cattle mutilations might have an et

772
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,120
origin as if this is a big change but

773
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,720
you never dismissed the idea of

774
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:18,799
something strange and unusual about them

775
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,919
did you no you know again i um

776
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,760
as i've said so many times on the show

777
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,240
and in my books and everything that uh

778
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:28,000
i really attempt to be open-minded and

779
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,240
objective and allow myself to be pulled

780
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,760
in the direction that the data or the

781
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,559
evidence is suggesting and you know the

782
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,159
more i

783
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,240
mull the whole subject over and and the

784
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,520
ufo subject uh crypto zoology all these

785
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,120
subjects together

786
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:44,960
you know i get i get pulled one way or

787
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,679
another way slightly um not much i'm i'm

788
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:49,279
pretty set in stone i think in most of

789
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,039
my opinions and

790
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,799
in conclusions um

791
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,320
but you know it's the evidence it's a

792
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,799
data that helps me

793
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,399
move in a particular direction or draw

794
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,720
particular conclusions i you know i've

795
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,760
never

796
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,360
said it was anything else

797
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,440
you know somebody pointed out that

798
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,760
helicopters are extremely

799
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,840
well maintained and it's pretty rare for

800
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:11,919
helicopters to actually crash

801
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,840
and so i think

802
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,520
someone came up with a nice figure i

803
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,320
think a helicopter crashes every 11

804
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:20,880
years or something or the odds are that

805
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:23,520
a helicopter will crash um every 11

806
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,640
years

807
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:26,399
you know i need to do a little bit more

808
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,600
i think

809
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,200
data mining

810
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,559
to come up with a little bit more i

811
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,840
think about

812
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,840
well i don't know how to put this but

813
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,760
if no helicopter has ever crashed that

814
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,279
we know of

815
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,240
during some sort of cattle mutilation

816
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,600
operation

817
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,679
going with the hypothetical that the

818
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,679
government is somehow involved in

819
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,279
at least a

820
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,960
sizable percentage of these cases which

821
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,200
i still do firmly believe

822
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,960
yeah but maybe the government is using

823
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,120
more perfect helicopters

824
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,279
or we don't hear about it that's all

825
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:59,039
well again you know it's it's a

826
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,720
combination of two things first of all

827
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,120
it's very clandestine it's it's very

828
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:05,039
slick it's very well organized very well

829
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,159
funded

830
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:08,640
obviously if if it's real if this kind

831
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,120
of program is real or programs i i

832
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:13,120
should say in the plural

833
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,960
but perhaps there have been crashes

834
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,880
perhaps there have been mechanical

835
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:19,440
failures but because of the nature of

836
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,440
the particular case it was done out of

837
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,080
sight and out of view of the ranching

838
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,320
house or any sort of witnesses

839
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,559
and they were able to

840
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,640
go to some sort of go-to

841
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,600
plan

842
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,320
effectively and thus you know no harm no

843
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,440
foul nobody saw it it didn't happen

844
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,279
so if a helicopter crashes in a remote

845
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,440
pasture in america and nobody is there

846
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,039
to see it or hear it does it actually

847
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:45,360
crash

848
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,399
however

849
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,919
you know there are other elements and it

850
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,880
would

851
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,519
take pretty much a sizeable portion of

852
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:53,360
an entire show to really go into this in

853
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:54,640
depth but

854
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:55,840
there are other

855
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,559
aspects of the phenomenon that um

856
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,480
that are real head scratchers and uh

857
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:02,399
very very difficult to explain with a

858
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,360
just

859
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,000
straight out terrestrial um agent being

860
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,240
being involved i've always suspected

861
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,480
that there is some sort of preternatural

862
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:12,720
or supernatural predator or

863
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:15,679
paranormal aspect to the core of the

864
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,640
cattle

865
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:18,000
mystery

866
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:22,720
but uh

867
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,000
whether

868
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:26,880
you can't use that particular

869
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:29,679
intuitive hit about a small percentage

870
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:32,320
of cases as a big broad brush

871
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,360
to then

872
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,519
attempt to explain all the other cases

873
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,039
with that particular explanation it

874
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,960
doesn't wash there's too many

875
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:41,519
way too many cases that seem

876
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,919
you know mundane in nature

877
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:45,840
high strange in the fact that the animal

878
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:48,799
is killed and disfigured

879
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:49,679
but

880
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,039
the subsequent

881
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:53,840
activity that occurs at the site

882
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,159
could be very easily explained by humans

883
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,919
so

884
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,360
you know i think

885
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,960
again as i've always said i think

886
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:02,399
there's multiple groups with multiple

887
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,240
agendas piggybacking their agendas on

888
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:06,240
other agendas actually doing red herring

889
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,519
cases

890
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:09,919
to possibly even implicate other agendas

891
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:11,120
or

892
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,679
i am attempting to be as open-minded as

893
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,440
possible and if i've been drawn back

894
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,240
towards a possible et scenario by one

895
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,600
degree

896
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,200
i think that's an indication that i'm

897
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,120
open-minded and i'm not set in stone so

898
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,799
people should be applauding that not

899
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:30,399
questioning it

900
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,600
the issue is more not that

901
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:35,600
you have any particular point of view or

902
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,120
you gravitate

903
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,039
towards one or the other it is that

904
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,200
you're not saying this is the final

905
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:43,919
answer this is it i'll go across on

906
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,200
lecture

907
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,600
tours and tell you how i discovered the

908
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,440
truth because if he did

909
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:51,679
chris would be rolling in money now

910
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,919
i mean i used to do lectures in the

911
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,200
early days

912
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,279
when jim mosley who was doing lectures

913
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:59,600
he took over for major kehoe believe it

914
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,480
or not

915
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,080
and he handed me the occasional

916
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,480
assignment when i was going around the

917
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,480
country doing lectures

918
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,960
i didn't do i think as well as i could

919
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,119
have done and the reason i didn't is

920
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,480
because i was not willing to lie and say

921
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,639
yeah we have proof of spaceships we have

922
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,040
proof it's time travelers we have proof

923
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,760
whatever i wouldn't do that i just would

924
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,679
give the most compelling sightings and

925
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,760
say we need to investigate it kind of a

926
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,520
really really

927
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,960
conservative point of view but they

928
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:30,800
didn't want that they wanted the

929
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,399
reader's digest answer is e.t here

930
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:36,079
they needed that

931
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,679
and therefore i'm not doing that kind of

932
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,240
lecture they wanted to talk about cosmic

933
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,079
watergates like of course stanton

934
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,679
friedman knows not that stanton friedman

935
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,359
isn't a serious guy

936
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:48,000
a scientist well-educated and he

937
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,839
believes what he says he thinks his

938
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:51,760
evidence is compelling i'm not saying

939
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,800
that although maybe as he gets older

940
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,119
he relies more on

941
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,040
what worked for him rather than

942
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,560
rethinking

943
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,800
what he believes you see where i'm

944
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,560
getting at i'm telling you why i can't

945
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,560
be a successful lecturer

946
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,160
but chris couldn't either for the same

947
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,079
reason he does a great show

948
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,400
a great presentation but he's not going

949
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,320
to come out and say

950
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,280
here's the evidence that's it i'm not

951
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,119
going to do that

952
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,440
just to let you know here we communicate

953
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,359
with skype for these radio shows like

954
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,359
lots of people do

955
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:26,800
earlier in the show we have the white

956
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,640
noise that you don't hear this time

957
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,720
chris was trying to talk and nobody

958
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,400
could hear him it's nothing personal i

959
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,320
want to tell you that

960
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:36,000
anyway

961
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:40,800
when i lecture i don't

962
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,880
i i don't get up there and say you know

963
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:45,119
i figured it out

964
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:46,480
you know i'm

965
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,079
my opinion is omnipotent

966
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,160
if anybody who doesn't believe

967
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:53,680
what i say

968
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,640
um not only are they wrong but they're

969
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,520
you know

970
00:36:02,950 --> 00:35:59,760
part of the problem they're

971
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,960
at best uh

972
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:04,880
muddying the waters quote unquote at

973
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,119
worst there's some sort of cia operative

974
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:10,079
who's a disinformation agent

975
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,960
um

976
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,800
i've been accused online of of being

977
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:15,119
both

978
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,800
which i i find

979
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,480
extremely amusing

980
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,680
um

981
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:21,680
there's a video uh interview i did with

982
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:23,680
anthony de la florio

983
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,400
while i was at the norio hayakawa in the

984
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,520
2009 you know dolce

985
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:31,200
get together

986
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,000
for the locals and

987
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,160
i mean it's it's got i don't know

988
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,720
20 something thousand views and just

989
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:40,960
reading through some of the comments uh

990
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,320
at one point a few years ago

991
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,920
we're going to talk about those comments

992
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,760
and more in our next segment with gene

993
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and chris you're in

994
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radio all right tell us about the

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comments as we do shop talk with jean

1096
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and chris

1097
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well

1098
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,400
this was a video done on on the dolce

1099
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,560
the myth of dolce as as i would like to

1100
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,839
refer to it

1101
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,760
and somebody said look at his eyes

1102
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:49,680
they're they're they're like going into

1103
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,480
vertical pupils he's he's a reptilian

1104
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:54,720
uh to oh he's a

1105
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:55,599
you know

1106
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:56,400
an

1107
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:01,040
disinformation agent

1108
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:02,800
i just couldn't believe some of the

1109
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,680
ill-informed uniform commentary that was

1110
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,920
on there and and that's what you get

1111
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,200
with web

1112
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:11,359
it doesn't matter you know what it is

1113
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,040
there's going to be some a-hole with an

1114
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:14,720
attitude and an

1115
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,760
opinion

1116
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,079
that's going to tear down anything that

1117
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,000
uh is posted

1118
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,400
of course i had far far more people

1119
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,960
jumping jumping to my defense but um

1120
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,800
still it just you know it gives you an

1121
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,319
indication that

1122
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,880
if you don't conform to people's pre

1123
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,920
you know

1124
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,760
resolved beliefs

1125
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,480
or

1126
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,800
predetermined um

1127
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,480
what would the word be gene

1128
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:40,480
it's almost like people want things to

1129
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,520
be

1130
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,839
true or not true they have this inner

1131
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:44,960
desire

1132
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,599
some compulsion that that that drives

1133
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,520
their opinion or their

1134
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,599
their perspective into a particular

1135
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:54,560
direction and i think within the realm

1136
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:58,319
of the paranormal ufos uh the mutes of

1137
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:59,680
crypto stuff

1138
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,040
ghosts

1139
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,440
people have this overriding

1140
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,680
desire to believe

1141
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,640
and and for it all to be true

1142
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,680
and

1143
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:11,760
the more educated you are the more you

1144
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,160
pull back from that particular

1145
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:15,520
drive

1146
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,400
or that particular

1147
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,319
want to believe agenda if you will for

1148
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,640
lack of a better way of putting it um so

1149
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,079
the more you educate yourself the more

1150
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,040
you're up to speed uh the more skeptical

1151
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,640
you become

1152
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,480
and and that's that to me is a good

1153
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,640
thing it's the people that don't do the

1154
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,359
work that only watch tv

1155
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,440
that don't listen to

1156
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:40,960
objective researchers objective sources

1157
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,520
they're the ones that live in a

1158
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,280
what's it called when you live in a echo

1159
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,880
chamber or

1160
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,839
you just

1161
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,400
blank out everything around you except

1162
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,480
the information or the

1163
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,319
i don't know the sources that that tend

1164
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,200
to uh support whatever intuitive sense

1165
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,040
you have about something

1166
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,040
it is sometimes also referred to as a

1167
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,560
bubble

1168
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,480
you're sitting there in this universe

1169
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,720
and this is part of what certain cable

1170
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,880
tv news networks are about

1171
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,280
where they exist to reinforce your

1172
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,760
belief because they sell spots they get

1173
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,800
advertising they get a big audience they

1174
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:18,960
are there to reinforce your beliefs and

1175
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:19,839
things

1176
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,079
not to challenge those beliefs and

1177
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,560
therefore you're never exposed

1178
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,079
to something

1179
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:28,560
right exactly and

1180
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,520
i think

1181
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:31,599
i've been involved in these subject

1182
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,640
matters

1183
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,079
for

1184
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,000
you know a couple of decades more almost

1185
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:37,760
three decades

1186
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,960
in terms of actually being an active um

1187
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,599
presence i've been interested for 50

1188
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,839
years plus

1189
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,040
but

1190
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:48,720
since i've been involved i think in the

1191
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,520
last 25 years or so um it's been really

1192
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:53,920
apparent to me that

1193
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,560
you can't battle against

1194
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,520
people's desire for something to be so

1195
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,599
or be true

1196
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,960
it doesn't matter how much you argue it

1197
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,200
doesn't matter how much uh evidence that

1198
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:06,880
you present

1199
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:09,280
if a person is in that bubble is is you

1200
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,480
know harangued by the echo chamber

1201
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,640
um there's just nothing you can do i

1202
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:17,280
mean it's almost like

1203
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,160
you know a pandemic i mean you you look

1204
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,400
at a someone suffering from some disease

1205
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:24,079
and they're they're they're past the

1206
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:26,079
point of saving

1207
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,440
and uh

1208
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,000
and so i really don't waste time

1209
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,119
uh in conversations uh with people

1210
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,359
whose minds obviously have been made up

1211
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,680
uh for a long time and

1212
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,440
there's just no way

1213
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:41,520
in hell there's no possibility of

1214
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,280
changing that mind

1215
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,800
and that's why

1216
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,560
sometimes on the forum

1217
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,800
of the pericast forum i see this where

1218
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,480
people that are so entrenched in their

1219
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,480
views and opinions

1220
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,240
you know go through the exercise time

1221
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,760
and time again whether it's climate

1222
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,319
change whether it's

1223
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,119
the et hypothesis whether it's um you

1224
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,520
know any number of subjects that that

1225
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,839
appear to be fairly contentious

1226
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,760
uh or are

1227
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,240
contentious it both sides are so

1228
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,000
entrenched it's almost like uh trench

1229
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:14,000
warfare and world war one the only thing

1230
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,319
you can do is lob artillery shells and

1231
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:19,119
hope they hit something um

1232
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:20,640
you're not going to change people's

1233
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:23,119
minds uh in this realm the only thing

1234
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:26,880
that can do that i think is is facts

1235
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,839
and

1236
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,280
even though facts aren't going to change

1237
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,000
everybody's minds people that are still

1238
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,760
a little bit open-minded still a little

1239
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,280
bit objective

1240
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,440
if they see the facts or hear the facts

1241
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,119
and experience

1242
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,280
the truth that may be contained within

1243
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,200
the facts then there's a possibility

1244
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,720
that you might nudge them one way or

1245
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,920
another

1246
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,680
um so

1247
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,720
you know

1248
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,480
getting back to your whole comment about

1249
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,319
me lecturing

1250
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,880
i go out there and lecture i i

1251
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,119
i've been told so many times that i blew

1252
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,240
people's minds just with facts

1253
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,400
not facts that are

1254
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:04,880
followed up by me saying and because of

1255
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:07,680
that this must be so

1256
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,240
i really stay away from that kind of

1257
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,720
pontificating i allow the facts to

1258
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,560
lead people in the direction that the

1259
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:16,079
facts will lead them

1260
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,280
and um

1261
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,960
everybody's different so the facts could

1262
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:20,720
lead you in

1263
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,240
you know in nuanced ways not not in

1264
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:26,800
always concrete ways although in some

1265
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,560
sense it's kind of hard to argue with uh

1266
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,319
with the reality

1267
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,160
and uh

1268
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,599
but i'm not true believer enough for the

1269
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,359
true believers and i'm not skeptical

1270
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,680
enough for the skeptics so

1271
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:38,960
you know

1272
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,560
most of the time i sit at home not

1273
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,960
invited eating worms

1274
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,720
don't want to go into the worms because

1275
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:46,880
that's kind of grisly i don't like

1276
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:48,560
grizzly food but i know some people

1277
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:49,440
actually

1278
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,000
like grizzly food like chocolate covered

1279
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:54,480
insects from atlanta i used to always

1280
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:56,960
wonder if alan greenfield who

1281
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,200
was born around atlanta

1282
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,280
ate one of those dishes

1283
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:03,040
i think he told me at one time but i

1284
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:05,280
don't want to think about it

1285
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,640
i don't know where we started with this

1286
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,319
but the point here is

1287
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,480
that there are a lot of people who have

1288
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,240
different points of view the majority

1289
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:15,119
opinion in the ufo field is spaceships

1290
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,720
we're seeing more and more evidence of

1291
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,680
possible life-bearing planets

1292
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,599
external to our solar system therefore

1293
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,000
being exo solar planets in fact there

1294
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,480
was a discovery of a dwarf star

1295
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,960
that's so cool it has water water is

1296
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,000
everywhere

1297
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:32,079
water is on pluto water is on the moons

1298
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,280
of jupiter

1299
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,760
water is on a dwarf star doesn't that

1300
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,720
pretty much

1301
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,200
say for sure there's lots and lots of

1302
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,119
life in the universe

1303
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,800
well sure um

1304
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,280
it sure is highly suggestive uh i hadn't

1305
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:47,920
heard that that's an interesting fact

1306
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,520
water on a dwarf planet hmm a dwarf star

1307
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,359
sir your star how could a star have

1308
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:54,880
water

1309
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,440
clouds in first spectrum

1310
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,079
of coldest brown dwarf a brown dwarf

1311
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,520
star is one that

1312
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,920
is very old and the intensity of the

1313
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,880
light that

1314
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,720
it emits

1315
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:09,839
is

1316
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,160
very low it's 7.2 light years from earth

1317
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,160
it is the coldest known object outside

1318
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,800
of our solar system and is just barely

1319
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:21,760
visible at infrared wavelengths with the

1320
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,319
largest ground-based telescopes but they

1321
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,280
can see it not from

1322
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,280
a space-based

1323
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:32,079
telescope but one on our own planet it's

1324
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,119
called

1325
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,079
weiss w-i-s-e

1326
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,720
zero eight five five

1327
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,960
it's real man

1328
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:42,720
wow

1329
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,920
that is that's pretty intriguing

1330
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:47,680
uh the powers of one of the wonderful

1331
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,440
powers of diagnostic science uh

1332
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,960
it's uh

1333
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,800
it's not the end all to be all i you

1334
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:56,800
know i think

1335
00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,160
the whole um pontification of science uh

1336
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,680
is wrong

1337
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,760
i think science every few years it has

1338
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:05,359
to admit it's wrong because they come up

1339
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,800
with more amazing facts that uh

1340
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:10,880
prove that they're not fallible

1341
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,670
you know there are people out there who

1342
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,400
have a flat earth society

1343
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,800
i think it's just a joke of course

1344
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,920
but you see

1345
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,440
flat earth is

1346
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:27,280
basically denying science that's another

1347
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:29,599
argument we make in the political realm

1348
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,720
where a certain political party denies

1349
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:34,640
science

1350
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,520
now

1351
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,839
science can be wrong

1352
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,760
science can change and sometimes it's

1353
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,079
slow to admit when it's wrong and slow

1354
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:43,920
to change

1355
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,240
but to deny science

1356
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,559
is absurd you ask him a question like

1357
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,559
for example about climate change well

1358
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:53,200
i'm not a scientist so i can't respond

1359
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,480
all right

1360
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,000
so

1361
00:51:03,270 --> 00:50:58,480
what about

1362
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,670
i'm not a scientist

1363
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,589
you got my point here

1364
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,599
i mean at the end of the day

1365
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:13,599
we're doing the best we can

1366
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,720
and when we

1367
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,480
discuss all these subjects on the power

1368
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:18,800
cast we are exploring

1369
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,200
the frontiers of science

1370
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,520
that which science has damned

1371
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:25,920
as charles ford once said

1372
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:27,800
we're proto-scientists

1373
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,800
proto-scientists all right

1374
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,000
all right

1375
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,000
i'll call it that i don't claim to be a

1376
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,480
scientist i'm a talk show host folks

1377
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,880
we're talking shop this week

1378
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:41,520
with gene steinberg with chris o'brien

1379
00:51:53,549 --> 00:51:52,710
thank you for listening to gcn

1380
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:53,559
visit

1381
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,069
attack of the rockoids has been well

1382
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,400
received by critics and readers alike

1383
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:04,400
it's a thrill minute story you'll never

1384
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:05,440
forget

1385
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,359
a former u.s military intelligence

1386
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:09,839
officer is haunted by intense dreams

1387
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,400
about a beautiful woman pleading for his

1388
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,800
help after a terrible battle in outer

1389
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,839
space

1390
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:18,000
but the dreams turn out to be true and

1391
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:19,920
thrust him into a telepathic love affair

1392
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,640
with a woman whose far away planet is

1393
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,119
intent on destroying the earth

1394
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,599
and now the gripping tale continues in

1395
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,079
the coming of the protectors it's the

1396
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,400
second book of the rockoids trilogy

1397
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,640
a galaxy spanning adventure that pits

1398
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,119
our hapless heroes against powerful

1399
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,359
fanatical enemies that threaten the

1400
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:41,280
lives of freedom-loving beings

1401
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,480
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welcome back to the paracast the gold

1431
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standard of paranormal radio

1432
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:15,040
and now

1433
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:18,310
here's jane steinberg

1434
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,150
as we were talking my mind wandered to

1435
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,079
the appearance a few months back of

1436
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:27,599
whitley strieber

1437
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:32,240
recent book is called alien hunter not

1438
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:33,839
the one on

1439
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:36,400
abductions but his recent fiction book

1440
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:37,760
alien hunter

1441
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,920
and there's a tv series based on that

1442
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,160
book called hunters

1443
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,359
just finished its first season on sci-fi

1444
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:48,000
did you get a chance to see it chris

1445
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:50,240
i don't have broadcast television

1446
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,240
well you can basically subscribe to

1447
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,880
sling tv which is streaming and catch it

1448
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:56,720
that way or something yeah i'm not

1449
00:55:02,549 --> 00:54:59,680
really into you know most of these

1450
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,559
kind of serial shows um

1451
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,119
you know i watched the boardwalk empire

1452
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:07,440
i thought that was fairly well done

1453
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,240
of course i was a big breaking bad fan

1454
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:11,760
i've seen

1455
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,839
i think the first three or four seasons

1456
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,240
of game of thrones

1457
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:18,079
but for the most part

1458
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:19,839
nah i don't really watch all that stuff

1459
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,400
i've never seen a single csi

1460
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,359
never saw a single cosby show uh never

1461
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,640
saw

1462
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:28,880
you know all those really super popular

1463
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,000
shows

1464
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,079
i did have a friend who loved to watch

1465
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,559
great big bang theory which i've seen a

1466
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,000
few episodes of that and think it's

1467
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,400
really well done and funny but

1468
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,920
you know i have too many books to read

1469
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,599
too many uh

1470
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:43,359
other things to do

1471
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:44,800
i don't know i

1472
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:46,800
like broadcast tv i think some of the

1473
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,640
shows are really well done

1474
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,559
i of course try to get the cheapest plan

1475
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:51,920
possible

1476
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,680
because they just charge you too much

1477
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,079
that's the big problem and why people

1478
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:58,319
cut the cable cord is because you pay

1479
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,599
for service and to watch 10 stations you

1480
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,200
have to get 300

1481
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:05,440
300 channels and nothing to watch anyway

1482
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,480
hunters

1483
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,400
i did get to see it

1484
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,880
and the basic focus of the story is

1485
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:12,720
around the disappearance

1486
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,760
of a decorated philadelphia cop's wife

1487
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:18,000
when he discovers an organization who

1488
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:19,200
hunts down

1489
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,440
alien terrorists it's like

1490
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,920
some kind of federal agency

1491
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:26,160
that is involved in this

1492
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:28,799
the show is very grisly these are

1493
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,520
lizard-like creatures that grow

1494
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:32,640
skin

1495
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:37,440
remember v did you ever see v

1496
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,280
where i did i caught that on hulu i

1497
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:40,960
think and i did watch the entire series

1498
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,359
plus i remember a few episodes from the

1499
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:45,200
80s i think from the original version of

1500
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,319
it

1501
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,920
was a newer version

1502
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,319
that i thought was kind of well done but

1503
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,319
then the plotting got so incoherent

1504
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:55,760
which is what happens

1505
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:58,799
with a series you get some great ideas

1506
00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:01,280
and suddenly

1507
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,079
well

1508
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,319
you got the great idea

1509
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:07,040
they cannot sustain it after the first

1510
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,040
year well what was her name maureen

1511
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,440
marina baccarin or something marina

1512
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:13,839
baccarin yes pretty hot

1513
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,920
very attractive lady

1514
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:17,760
her daughter was played by laura van

1515
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:18,960
devort

1516
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:21,520
remember her also she played on

1517
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:24,240
the smallville tv series as supergirl

1518
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,240
before the current supergirl

1519
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,119
and she was on a series involving the

1520
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,760
only female werewolf in the world in a

1521
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:33,680
show called bitten which was on for two

1522
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,839
seasons before being cancelled and then

1523
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,400
more recently she played this

1524
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:40,640
brainiac villain on supergirl which is

1525
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,839
like a computerized being with blue skin

1526
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,760
kind of like the blue skin

1527
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,920
an x-men okay

1528
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,440
remember the lady with the blue skin

1529
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,680
you're frightening me gene

1530
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,680
you know way too much about all this

1531
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:55,280
stuff

1532
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:57,359
it's useless knowledge though

1533
00:58:01,109 --> 00:58:00,160
as much as i enjoy television and sci-fi

1534
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,119
films

1535
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,520
i suppose it is useless knowledge in any

1536
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:05,520
case just to evaluate

1537
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,559
the show

1538
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,720
loosely based on a novel from whitney

1539
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,640
streamer i thought it was okay a little

1540
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:13,040
grisly at times didn't make a whole lot

1541
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,480
of sense

1542
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,280
which is true with a lot of these shows

1543
00:58:20,829 --> 00:58:20,079
we're really not sure why the aliens

1544
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:20,839
are

1545
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,359
here and they seem to have different

1546
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,599
factions and they seem to want to leave

1547
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,920
this planet but it is shown when they

1548
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:29,520
want to leave this planet they'll use a

1549
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:31,440
craft that could set off a nuclear

1550
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:33,760
explosion and destroy a whole continent

1551
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,720
or something i mean does that make sense

1552
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,000
to you

1553
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:40,400
one of the alien hunters was uh

1554
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:43,920
was daryl sims mike barra

1555
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,549
was named john ronson or somebody from

1556
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,520
england

1557
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:53,040
running around making fools of

1558
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,480
themselves

1559
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:57,119
wasn't that alien hunters

1560
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:59,200
i don't recall but there is an alien

1561
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,200
hunters book that is science fiction

1562
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:03,280
from which it only lasted about six

1563
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,880
episodes i think it was so bad they

1564
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,480
couldn't even get a full season out of

1565
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,640
it

1566
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,559
well there you go

1567
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:12,400
let me look at the reception to the show

1568
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,599
okay

1569
00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:16,079
the show has been universally panned by

1570
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:17,839
critics

1571
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:20,400
brian lowry from variety called the

1572
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:23,599
pilot utterly generic conceptually

1573
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:31,589
hunters had a zero rating by critics

1574
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,319
and 55 percent by audience on rotten

1575
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,839
tomatoes

1576
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:38,160
oh that's pretty bad that is bad i mean

1577
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:39,599
getting a zero

1578
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:41,040
by critics

1579
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:42,319
i mean you know sometimes the movie

1580
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:45,760
really panned is like 25 or 30 percent

1581
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:52,309
yeah that's that's real bad

1582
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,040
i mean and then also the fact that only

1583
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:57,359
a small majority of the audience likes

1584
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:58,559
it

1585
01:00:02,390 --> 00:59:59,520
i don't think we're going to see a

1586
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,270
it

1587
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,710
oh okay

1588
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,520
i just answered my own question sci-fi

1589
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,240
announced hunter's cancellation on july

1590
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,079
8th before the final

1591
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,720
and 13th episode was aired

1592
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:21,119
so they're basically saying sorry folks

1593
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,319
you're never going to see any more of

1594
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,000
these episodes

1595
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,880
it's gone sorry whitley

1596
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,119
i wonder though when someone like that

1597
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:31,440
sells oh that was the whitley show that

1598
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:33,040
was the whitley show that's what i was

1599
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,480
talking about

1600
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,000
[Music]

1601
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,160
and was produced by several people

1602
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:39,760
including gail

1603
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:40,839
and

1604
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,000
heard who you might remember

1605
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,559
uh yeah he rings a bell

1606
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,319
right she has done

1607
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:50,319
a lot of interesting shows

1608
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,440
the most recent of which

1609
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:55,599
is the walking dead

1610
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:58,000
ah no wonder she's responsible for the

1611
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,040
walking dead but she also wrote one of

1612
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:03,280
the writers on the original

1613
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,520
terminator

1614
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,480
movies

1615
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,319
not terminator 2 which was the best one

1616
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:12,799
but the original one

1617
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,319
okay

1618
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,720
and she was married to james cameron for

1619
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,960
four years

1620
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,319
which is i guess why she wrote the

1621
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,720
terminator

1622
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,960
why do i bring this up i just you know

1623
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:26,559
all this stuff i can't help but with

1624
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,960
talking about fantasy dude

1625
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:30,640
you live in a fantasy world but that's

1626
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,000
okay you know teach their own

1627
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:36,160
well i started by thinking about whitley

1628
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:37,920
strieber

1629
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,680
you need a life you you you live your

1630
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,160
life vicariously through your television

1631
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:44,160
and that's okay

1632
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:46,720
but whatever works dude

1633
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:49,280
well it's true it's true but you know i

1634
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:51,760
had some more money i travel more i am a

1635
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:53,119
hermit

1636
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:57,990
i

1637
01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:01,119
uh

1638
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:03,680
you know a life is a good thing to have

1639
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:06,160
and uh sometimes we need to work a

1640
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:07,599
little extra hard to make sure that we

1641
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,280
have one

1642
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:11,760
oh we try we try

1643
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,319
you know if i ever get past some of the

1644
01:02:17,589 --> 01:02:16,000
current tribulations

1645
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:17,599
i am sure i'm going to try to live a

1646
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:19,920
life out there in the meantime i live a

1647
01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:23,599
life in front of a microphone

1648
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:26,559
is that is that reality

1649
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,440
well

1650
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:29,520
it's your reality i'm not sure if it's a

1651
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,319
reality but it's definitely your reality

1652
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,480
um

1653
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,160
you know me personally i've got so much

1654
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:37,839
going on that that

1655
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:40,480
it's difficult for me to

1656
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:41,920
focus half the time when we do have

1657
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:44,799
these shows because my mind is elsewhere

1658
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:46,839
especially when i'm i'm you

1659
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:49,520
know doing a show like this where i got

1660
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:50,799
to talk a lot

1661
01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:51,599
yeah

1662
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:53,040
i guess you like to listen you prefer to

1663
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:54,240
listen

1664
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,400
opposed to hear myself talk and

1665
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:01,119
pontificate i'm just really you know

1666
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:03,920
the older i get the less uh

1667
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:05,760
enthusiastic i get about hearing the

1668
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,000
sound of my own voice

1669
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,559
well remember also your voice never

1670
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,240
sounds to yourself

1671
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,319
the way it does to other people so you

1672
01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:16,079
might hate the way you sound but other

1673
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:18,400
people find it presentable and pleasant

1674
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:20,400
or vice versa you may think you have the

1675
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:22,160
greatest voice on the planet

1676
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:25,920
other people listen to it and they go ah

1677
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:28,960
gene i've been in audio for 35 40 years

1678
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:30,799
i know that that's why i said do you

1679
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briefly if you did in facebook

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this

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01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:35,040
thread that went up a few days ago that

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paula harris remember her oh yeah she'd

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been on the power cast a couple of times

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01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:42,000
i remember we had kind of an argument

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with her where she was saying that billy

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meyer is quote the real deal and then

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she tried to deny it on the air but we

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have the statement that we kept pushing

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in her face well well she does not like

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01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:55,600
me because i am now the co-host of the

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01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:57,440
paracas she in fact

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01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:00,000
i've heard that she doesn't like me

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01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:01,440
at all

1813
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,279
well you know what i met her once at one

1814
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,319
of these international ufo conferences i

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01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,679
guess we sort of got along okay i guess

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01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:11,120
sort of kinda

1817
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:11,920
well

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01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,159
again one of those people that have

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01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,080
gone off the new age

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benevolent space brother bliss bunny

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01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,640
deep end that's just my opinion

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01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:23,279
well the issue here is more involved or

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more confusing

1824
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:27,839
so supposedly she wrote a piece for the

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front page of the mufon journal did you

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01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:33,679
hear about this oh god no

1827
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,359
this should be interesting

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01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:37,279
she submitted a cover article for the

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june 2016 mufon journal which includes a

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01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:42,960
photo caption and

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01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:45,359
kurt collins or century in our forms

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01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:46,480
mentions it

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01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:48,880
points out that she copied this without

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01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,310
and this is the cover of the cover story

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01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,719
for the newfound journal i don't know if

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01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,280
it was published or not

1837
01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:03,840
and i haven't gotten the mufon journal

1838
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,830
in a while in memphis

1839
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,320
[Music]

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01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,080
she claims that she's a journalist well

1841
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:10,960
that's uh that's not very journalistic

1842
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:13,600
if worse she calls herself a ufo

1843
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,000
photojournalist an investigative

1844
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,159
reporter well i think an investigative

1845
01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:20,960
reporter knows something about copyright

1846
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,760
something about saying wait a minute

1847
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,360
how about

1848
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,960
giving us

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01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:28,560
the rights this photo would you want to

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01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:29,920
do that maybe the person would i don't

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01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,040
know

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01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:33,440
that's that's yeah it's inexcusable and

1853
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,120
unforgivable

1854
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:37,360
and the case she was writing about

1855
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:39,920
alejandra rojas from openmind says the

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01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:42,159
following i have spoken to the witnesses

1857
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:43,360
in this case

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01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:46,880
their biggest concern was getting

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a paycheck

1860
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,960
yeah yeah i go on

1861
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,640
well why don't you uh share that on my

1862
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:54,480
uh facebook page and i'll take a look at

1863
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:55,920
it

1864
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:59,280
will share this yeah yeah because i i

1865
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:00,560
want to

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01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,239
make some calls up to boulder and find

1867
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,920
out what's up with that

1868
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,000
all right i will definitely look at your

1869
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,040
face but there's your facebook page

1870
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:11,440
and i will write check this out here how

1871
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,360
quiet my keyboard is

1872
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,520
and i post the link to the thread how

1873
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,080
could i hear how quiet it is

1874
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,800
i could only hear how noisy it is

1875
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,199
it's not noisy i have a quiet keyboard

1876
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,560
listen

1877
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,640
you hear that no

1878
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,560
you don't hear that no

1879
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,560
i have a quiet keyboard i have really

1880
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:32,400
bad ears too

1881
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:33,440
well that's right you're a rock and

1882
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,640
roller

1883
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:35,840
that's the thing you're a rock and

1884
01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:39,040
roller that's why you have bad ears

1885
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,880
i worry about grayson's years because he

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01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:42,560
attended a lot of

1887
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:43,840
different

1888
01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:49,360
events from rock and roll stars yeah

1889
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,239
huh

1890
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:52,320
what

1891
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,000
going to be

1892
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:58,400
richie blackmore 73 blew out my right

1893
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:00,719
eardrum 25 by

1894
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,920
about 70 maybe 75 percent hearing loss

1895
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,520
as a result

1896
01:12:11,510 --> 01:12:07,360
and my left ear is

1897
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:11,520
yeah maybe if i'm lucky 75 percent

1898
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:12,480
you see

1899
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:13,520
what

1900
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,040
you see if you go too many of these

1901
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,199
oh don't start rolling with daddy jean

1902
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:21,520
on me already why i'm holding i've

1903
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:23,120
already worked around all this stuff i

1904
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,840
can still mix you know and and know

1905
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:28,320
exactly how the eq is working even

1906
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:30,320
though i have no high end left i can

1907
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:33,920
still mix stereo it hasn't inhibited me

1908
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:36,640
in any way shape or form in fact if i

1909
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:37,679
lay on my

1910
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:40,239
left side which is my good ear

1911
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:41,760
i can really get to sleep because i have

1912
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:42,960
a natural

1913
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:45,120
noise filter

1914
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,640
in my right ear

1915
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:48,960
which can't hear very well

1916
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,280
so you know there's a

1917
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,520
golden lining there's a silver cloud

1918
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,400
every every you know possible scenario i

1919
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:58,239
prefer to accentuate the positive not

1920
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,360
the negative

1921
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,760
too many rock concerts folks

1922
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,760
and you can't hear here no i can't hear

1923
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,760
any of that it's not rock concerts i was

1924
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,679
a gigging musician a rock and roll

1925
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,600
musical of course that's even worse you

1926
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,760
you you were

1927
01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:13,920
one of those people yeah well i wasn't

1928
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:16,159
in front of the pa and i had very loud

1929
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,840
guitar players in a couple bands what

1930
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,880
can i do

1931
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:21,199
i don't know ear plugs or something

1932
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,800
i did

1933
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:24,880
didn't work

1934
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:27,040
and sometimes it didn't

1935
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:28,800
well they said that the late george

1936
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:30,840
martin the beatles

1937
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,440
producer you know his latter years his

1938
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:35,280
hearing had gone

1939
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:36,640
well that's normal your hearing's going

1940
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,960
to degrade as you get older so

1941
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,640
but in his case it was listening to the

1942
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,159
music

1943
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,880
loud up front

1944
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,400
yeah well

1945
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:48,080
the secret to good mixing is not

1946
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,960
listening to it loud you reference

1947
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:52,960
uh the mix once you've got it where you

1948
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,640
think it should be you reference it on

1949
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:56,640
the big mains and then you know crank it

1950
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:59,040
up and have a listen but you never mix

1951
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,640
it allowed volume

1952
01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:03,360
if you know what you're doing

1953
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:06,159
now bob ludwig remember him

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01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,080
famous

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01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,760
record producer

1956
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:11,760
he mastered one or two recordings that

1957
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:13,440
my wife did in the 80s

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01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:14,960
and one of the things he told me at the

1959
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,120
time was that when he mastered for vinyl

1960
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,040
they make an acetate and he was creating

1961
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:23,679
the acetate he'd listen to it

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01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:26,400
on a very cheap 30 dollar

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01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,320
record player and the reason is the

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number one make sure it doesn't skip you

1965
01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:32,640
can't have a a record that skips but to

1966
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,400
see how it sounds

1967
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:36,480
on a poor quality system like it sounds

1968
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,480
good on a crappy little system it's

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01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,640
going to sound great on

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01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,280
a good audio system

1971
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,199
absolutely that's an important point

1972
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,360
motown recordings were mixed for am

1973
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,360
radio

1974
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,840
it was extremely compressed

1975
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:53,360
yes

1976
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,640
but that's true with a lot of music

1977
01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:56,719
nowadays i think a lot of music nowadays

1978
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,719
is very much mixed

1979
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,159
very compressed

1980
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:02,080
yeah especially all the pop stuff it's

1981
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:04,640
all it's ridiculously compressed

1982
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:06,320
as far as i'm concerned it's also

1983
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:07,679
ridiculous the music doesn't have a

1984
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,760
chance to breathe it doesn't have a you

1985
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:11,840
know silence is

1986
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:14,320
as important as um

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01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,600
notes

1988
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:17,520
and there is no silence

1989
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,520
except for some breakdown where then

1990
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:21,600
some weird synthesizer

1991
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,800
you know thing comes squawking in

1992
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:26,400
i think they're putting too much in

1993
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,360
there

1994
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,760
but the problem with it is perfect it's

1995
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:31,679
too perfect

1996
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:35,120
you don't have mistakes in music anymore

1997
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:36,719
there's no more spontaneity they've

1998
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:40,320
taken all the uh humanness and the uh

1999
01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:42,159
the wonderful uh

2000
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,400
analog sense of music they've taken it

2001
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,640
out it's the heart and soul of music is

2002
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,080
being torn out

2003
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,159
popular music is so

2004
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:52,800
tits on everything is perfect

2005
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:55,280
there's no errors there's no sense of

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01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:57,040
performance it's all

2007
01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:58,560
computerized

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01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,760
perfection which to me is extremely cold

2009
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:03,440
extremely boring

2010
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:06,560
and uh doesn't inspire me one one bit at

2011
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:07,520
all

2012
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:09,199
you see at one time

2013
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,800
in the old days

2014
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,159
when you made a recording it was

2015
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:14,320
supposed to duplicate the live

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performance as much as possible so

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01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:17,280
anybody who wanted to would put the

2018
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:19,360
record on the turntable and get some

2019
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,679
approximation of the live experience i

2020
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,600
mean even the early beatles songs they

2021
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:25,040
did a lot of those things in one or two

2022
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takes

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come in the afternoon and do a few hit

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records sure

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it was really amazing a lot can't but

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in the early days you do a recording and

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it was as close to a live performance as

2161
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possible but artists like the beatles

2162
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decided to create in the recording

2163
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studio

2164
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they have no counterpart

2165
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in the real world and nowadays in

2166
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concerts you know they have these

2167
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expensive mixing consoles and they have

2168
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like an audio engineer in the back room

2169
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mixing the concert to sound somewhat

2170
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like the record which means it's not

2171
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,639
always a live performance it's a mixture

2172
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:34,400
of pre-recorded stuff

2173
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,280
live stuff i hear sometimes that certain

2174
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artists do not even

2175
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sing live that much

2176
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,320
they want to be letter perfect

2177
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especially if they're dancing a lot so

2178
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they play the recording what's your

2179
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opinion of that chris

2180
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well you know again if you're

2181
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some fly girl group or

2182
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madonna or whomever

2183
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you are expending a lot of energy

2184
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especially if you're in your 50s

2185
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you know bullying around the stage and

2186
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all that so you know whatever works

2187
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:03,360
people they don't care they're there for

2188
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:05,360
the experience really

2189
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:08,239
of course i remember back in the 70s

2190
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elo because they didn't have the

2191
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:12,880
sequencing technology that they do now

2192
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would rely on tapes to do certain

2193
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keyboard parts because it just wasn't

2194
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:19,440
what's his name uh the keyboard player

2195
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wasn't able to

2196
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to pull the parts um off because he

2197
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didn't have that many hands

2198
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:26,800
so they would roll tapes and they

2199
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actually got sued i think by some

2200
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venue in minnesota if memory serves

2201
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being correct and they got sued for

2202
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putting on a fraudulent performance

2203
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,600
by the keyboard player originally was

2204
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:42,239
richard tandy now he's still yeah he's

2205
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,320
still the keyboard player um

2206
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richard tandy

2207
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and uh because he couldn't he just

2208
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wasn't physically able to do all the

2209
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parts they actually helped him out with

2210
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some tapes

2211
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,400
and i i just think that's hysterical

2212
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,400
because now i mean you have entire shows

2213
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practically that are taped and they're

2214
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just abs you know doing a milly

2215
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vanilli's lip-syncing act

2216
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and uh

2217
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it's

2218
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i mean i never

2219
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not once ever went there i did have

2220
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sequences that i used but they were

2221
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triggered manually

2222
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if the the tempo of the song was wrong

2223
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:17,360
the sequences came out too fast or too

2224
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slow whatever

2225
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:19,679
so

2226
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,520
you know i grew up in the analog days i

2227
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love analog synthesis i love analog

2228
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:25,840
recording i still have a eight-track

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01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,800
tape recorder not eight-track cassette

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01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:30,800
but 8-track

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01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,199
a quarter-inch recorder

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01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:35,040
which i still occasionally like to use

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01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:37,600
for recording basic tracks

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01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:40,880
i am now fully immersed in logic pro x

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01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:43,120
and and i'm doing that whole

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01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:44,880
scene as well but

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01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:46,560
there's nothing like

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01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:48,560
good old analog

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01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:50,320
i pretty much consider myself a bit of

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01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:53,280
an expert when it comes to picking out

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01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:54,560
the difference between digital and

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01:24:58,629 --> 01:24:56,080
analog

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01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:58,639
it's pretty apparent to me uh to me

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01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:01,920
digital is is now getting to the point

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01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:03,600
the technology is getting to the point

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01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,280
where it's almost

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01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:07,840
virtually indistinguishable

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01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:09,520
with a good engineer and some good gear

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01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:10,800
but

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i still think i'm still able to pick out

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01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:14,880
what's digital and what's analog anybody

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01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:16,480
out there want to want to challenge me

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01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,360
on this i'll i'll take you up on it

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01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:20,880
well one of the things of course that

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01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:21,840
was

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01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,120
stream players and that reminds me of a

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01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,280
band from the 60s called the left bank

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01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:31,199
which did the same thing

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01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:34,239
remember the left bank walk away renee

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01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,880
yeah the one hit wonders yeah

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01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:38,960
how could you forget

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01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,480
don't walk away ready

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01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,719
i wonder how much jeff lynn

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01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:46,960
and the rest of the people in ella were

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01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:49,280
influenced by the left bank

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01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,120
jeff lynn was influenced by watching

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01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:53,199
john lennon conduct the orchestra during

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01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:55,120
the glass onion session

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01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,920
at abbey roads for the white album

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01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:59,600
you know what he became very friendly

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01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:01,600
with george harrison he produced some

2272
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,159
great albums for george harrison

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01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:06,000
he was part of the traveling wilburys

2274
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:07,360
and i heard him interviewed he seemed

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01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,760
like a pretty decent guy

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01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,040
yeah

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01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:12,880
good guy

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01:26:17,790 --> 01:26:15,199
interesting artist

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01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:17,800
left bank new york based rock band in

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01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,800
1967 they had walk away renee

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01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,040
and pretty ballerina those were the two

2282
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,960
hit records that they had but walker ray

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01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:26,080
renee

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01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,760
was the real one there

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01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:30,400
pretty ballerina

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01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:33,040
that's scary

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01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:34,560
yeah

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01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:36,239
the left bank walk away right now i

2289
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:41,990
the left bank imploded not too long

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01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,719
after this big hit doomed by internal

2291
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:46,400
squabbles

2292
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:47,920
you see that's what's interesting and

2293
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:50,000
unfortunate with a lot of these rock

2294
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:52,000
bands and you see this if you see the

2295
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,239
movie that thing you do that tom hanks

2296
01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:56,000
directed and starred in

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01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:58,639
it's about a one hit wonder band called

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01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:01,040
the wonders of course

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01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,800
and that's what happens they have their

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01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,400
hit record

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01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:06,480
they worked hard for it and then

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01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:09,280
they're ready to record more music

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01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:10,880
and the band breaks up they start

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01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,120
squabbling all the

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01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:15,360
pressures get to them all the things

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01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,719
that built up in the years that they

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01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,920
were starving suddenly

2308
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,000
they're famous and it just falls apart

2309
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:24,320
they can't sustain it i think that's one

2310
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:26,159
reason

2311
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,520
why you have the one hit wonder

2312
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,600
sometimes it is just lucky sometimes

2313
01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:31,360
these bands aren't bands at all they're

2314
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,199
just studio bands

2315
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:34,480
they get together in the studio they

2316
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:38,320
come up with something and then suddenly

2317
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:40,159
they have to go out and tour like herb

2318
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,760
alpert and the tijuana brass you think

2319
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:43,679
there was a tijuana brass

2320
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:45,840
before herb alfred did his first popular

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01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:46,880
recording

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01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:49,199
no he had to form one

2323
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:52,000
the box tops

2324
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,360
remember that

2325
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,679
of course well all those la all those

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01:27:58,830 --> 01:27:56,960
early recordings were done by the

2327
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:58,840
wrecking crew i mean let's get

2328
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:01,600
real well the box tops of course we're

2329
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,120
talking about

2330
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:05,040
well that's alex chilton actually yeah

2331
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,520
yeah alex chilton was like 17 years old

2332
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:09,840
or 18 years old 16 but who's counting

2333
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:11,920
all right he was 16 was a teenager

2334
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:12,840
when he

2335
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:15,760
did the letter

2336
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:17,120
but they didn't have a band it was a

2337
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:18,560
backup band

2338
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,760
of course when they went on tour they

2339
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,600
had to do that

2340
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:23,199
later on he was kind of like a folk

2341
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:25,520
singer or something wasn't he alex no no

2342
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,760
alex chilton he started big star one of

2343
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,840
the best bands that never made it out of

2344
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,760
the early 70s

2345
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,280
they were excellent and then he went on

2346
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:35,280
to uh

2347
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:38,080
god he had a whole career as a punk

2348
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:39,280
rocker

2349
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,719
as a folky

2350
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,280
as a torch singer i know the folk aspect

2351
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:45,679
but he did a lot of things and he had

2352
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:47,440
kind of an interesting career but never

2353
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:48,800
really

2354
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:51,199
made it big other than the box tops as i

2355
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:52,639
recall

2356
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,440
no

2357
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:55,440
never did

2358
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:58,400
and he lived what was 50s or something

2359
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:59,920
he died what about three or four years

2360
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,080
ago i think

2361
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:04,480
almost 60.

2362
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,560
i just wondered though

2363
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:08,880
who's more known for the letter probably

2364
01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:13,750
hmm

2365
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:14,639
you're

2366
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:17,920
we're showing our years here dude

2367
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:20,320
alex chilton died in new orleans in

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01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:21,840
2010.

2369
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,239
he was born in 1950 that would mean that

2370
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:26,239
he was 60 when he died just shy of his

2371
01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:29,280
60th birthday but

2372
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:33,440
william alexander alex chilton

2373
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:35,199
well him and chris bell wrote some great

2374
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:38,080
songs on those first two um

2375
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:39,920
well especially the first big star album

2376
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:41,920
and then chilton kind of wrote

2377
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:43,120
more of the material on the second and

2378
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:44,480
third albums but

2379
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:47,760
those are really influential albums

2380
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:50,159
they were kind of like rem before rem

2381
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:52,960
the replacements before the replacements

2382
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,400
um

2383
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:56,080
really good stuff and we're talking you

2384
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:59,440
know 71 72 i think when they

2385
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:00,880
first started getting rolling or maybe

2386
01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:02,880
72 is when they first started getting

2387
01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:04,159
rolling

2388
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,320
but they were on stacks uh records they

2389
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,159
were a white act on stacks and of course

2390
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,320
stacks went into chapter 11 and and

2391
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:11,760
totally dropped the ball and their first

2392
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:13,679
record got

2393
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:14,960
a lot of people wanted to hear it but

2394
01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:18,400
they couldn't get any distribution

2395
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:22,000
which kind of sucks okay

2396
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:23,760
the letter

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01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:26,639
written by wayne carson

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01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,920
his father

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01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:29,600
performed as shorty thompson in a

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country group called the tall timber

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trio

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and his father suggested the opening

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lines

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01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:37,920
give me a ticket

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for an airplane

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with gene and chris we're doing shop

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this book is from the future

2524
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and you are listening to the paracast

2525
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:23,030
[Music]

2526
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:24,950
wish you prefer the joe cocker version

2527
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or the box tops version

2528
01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:28,719
box stops version

2529
01:35:33,110 --> 01:35:31,040
it's simpler no fuss it just gets out it

2530
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:33,120
just amazes me that that voice is coming

2531
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:35,679
out of someone that just turned 16.

2532
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:38,159
how old was john fogarty when he first

2533
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:40,000
did his stuff at cretens he had to be in

2534
01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:42,960
his late teens

2535
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:46,239
yeah probably 19 20.

2536
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:48,639
yep pretty pretty impressive

2537
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:50,320
john fogarty

2538
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,760
i'm trying to look at when he was born

2539
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,520
he was he was actually he would have

2540
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:55,520
been his early 20s

2541
01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:58,480
because he was born in 1945.

2542
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:59,360
okay

2543
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:01,199
i heard him on

2544
01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:03,040
howard stern like a year or so ago

2545
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:06,000
because he had this biography out

2546
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:07,920
he sang with his guitar one of the

2547
01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:11,440
creden songs guy who was at that point

2548
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:14,159
had reached 70 he was perfect

2549
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,280
his voice

2550
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:18,159
i can't imagine that voice

2551
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:20,320
that rasp

2552
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:23,440
being perfect after doing it for 60 50

2553
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:25,679
years whatever

2554
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:28,159
i want to know what he's taking

2555
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:29,280
he's probably

2556
01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:30,320
licking

2557
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:32,159
young female body parts or something i

2558
01:36:35,110 --> 01:36:33,440
don't know

2559
01:36:37,750 --> 01:36:35,120
his wife wouldn't like that he's very

2560
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:37,760
close to his wife supposedly and his son

2561
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,440
plays in his backup band you know keeps

2562
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:41,679
it in the family like george harrison's

2563
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,840
son has continued to perform after

2564
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,520
george harrison's death

2565
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:47,840
and ringo starr's son

2566
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,520
zack starkey

2567
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:50,800
replaced

2568
01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:52,880
keith moon in the who

2569
01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:54,239
for a while

2570
01:36:57,669 --> 01:36:56,000
right and

2571
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:57,679
jason bonham

2572
01:37:02,070 --> 01:36:59,679
replaced his dad in the

2573
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:02,080
reuniting concerts for led zeppelin also

2574
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:03,840
played with foreigner and all sorts of

2575
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:04,880
people

2576
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:08,080
yeah and they're really good drummers

2577
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:10,000
i mean ringo starr is

2578
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:12,400
very unique in the way he did things but

2579
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,239
technically his son is a fabulous

2580
01:37:19,910 --> 01:37:17,910
you know some of those things that who

2581
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:19,920
did were pretty difficult to do no same

2582
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:22,159
with jason bonham he's sure play rings

2583
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:24,480
around his dad but

2584
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,119
you know you can't can't look at that uh

2585
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:29,920
bottom original bottom feel

2586
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:31,920
sitting so far back in the beat that

2587
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:36,000
you're almost not playing the song um

2588
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:37,760
not many people can can get away with

2589
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:39,119
that

2590
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:41,920
part of it is the imperfection

2591
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:43,760
like ringo starr was

2592
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:45,520
a left-handed drummer playing on a

2593
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:48,080
right-handed drum kit

2594
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:50,239
and i saw him showing how he came up

2595
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,159
with the beat for come together this

2596
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,400
kind of shuffling beat

2597
01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:56,320
and he said he was kind of forced to do

2598
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:59,119
it because of the awkwardness

2599
01:38:02,470 --> 01:38:01,040
of the situation

2600
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,480
and he is a person who is not

2601
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:04,400
technically a great drummer

2602
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:05,840
at all

2603
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,639
but

2604
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:08,719
was so highly influential in the rock

2605
01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:12,239
beat fact if you go on to youtube

2606
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,000
there is

2607
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,320
someone who in a single recording on the

2608
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:17,920
rooftop

2609
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:20,239
plays all the major ringo star drum

2610
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:22,239
beats in the course of five or six

2611
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:23,520
minutes

2612
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:25,920
accompanying the original songs

2613
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:28,400
no and he seemed really really good on

2614
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:29,760
tom toms

2615
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,400
he was very unique and and actually

2616
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:35,199
ground breaking his tomtom work plus he

2617
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,080
had a metronome sense of time

2618
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:40,480
yes i think the only song i remember

2619
01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:42,000
where it seemed like he went off his

2620
01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:43,760
timing was michelle

2621
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:45,040
it sounds like

2622
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:46,960
he's off the beat or something or it

2623
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:50,639
slows down did you ever notice that

2624
01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:52,480
um maybe

2625
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:53,199
not

2626
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,719
if i went back and listened for it i'd

2627
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,880
probably hear it but um it always seemed

2628
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:58,880
to work for me

2629
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,119
in the old days many years ago i played

2630
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:03,600
the drum for several years

2631
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:05,199
see nowadays of course you go into a

2632
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:07,280
recording studio and the drummer has a

2633
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,679
metronome in his ear

2634
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,880
if you keep him on

2635
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,719
you going to a recording studio it's

2636
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:15,280
like you know 24-bit or 32-bit sample

2637
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:19,430
right

2638
01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,440
and that's unfortunate i like the sound

2639
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:24,239
of a real drum i remember i heard the

2640
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:25,760
sound of a real drum

2641
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:28,480
sampled and kind of rejiggered digitally

2642
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:29,360
i mean

2643
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:31,679
a raw drum not

2644
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:32,880
just sampled

2645
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:34,960
i heard one good drum sound that nobody

2646
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,320
will ever hear

2647
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:38,239
and it was programmed by a guy named rob

2648
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:39,440
sabino

2649
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,960
who played with sheik

2650
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:44,560
and madonna

2651
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:46,480
on the let's dance album from david

2652
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:47,600
bowie

2653
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:49,360
and he programmed a drum track when my

2654
01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:51,520
wife was doing a demo record

2655
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,360
at a mobile recording studio in upstate

2656
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,920
new york and he sat there for maybe an

2657
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,440
hour

2658
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:59,360
and speaking of someone who had once

2659
01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:00,639
played drums i couldn't tell the

2660
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:02,159
difference

2661
01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:04,080
he did this all with a little tom tom

2662
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:06,840
machine and a few effects and a few

2663
01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:08,880
tricks of course this guy was playing on

2664
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:11,360
hit records i think though he went into

2665
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,639
a church or

2666
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:14,880
he became a school teacher or something

2667
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:17,199
rob sabino look him up

2668
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:18,800
robert sabino

2669
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,719
who's you know really famous as a studio

2670
01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,400
musician in new york

2671
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:24,719
right and he um i think he

2672
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,280
replaced steven bray who was madonna's

2673
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:28,880
original drummer

2674
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,280
on her first few albums and also a

2675
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:33,440
co-writer of some of her biggest hits

2676
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:34,840
he had a house in

2677
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:37,119
crestone for a number of years and i got

2678
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:39,280
to know him really sweet guy super nice

2679
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:41,360
guy just you never know

2680
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:42,880
that he was like you know

2681
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:45,199
multi-millionaire hot shot producer you

2682
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:48,239
know drum programmer you know

2683
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,440
really really nice guy great family

2684
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,880
hats off to him hope he's doing well

2685
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:54,880
haven't seen him in a while

2686
01:41:00,070 --> 01:40:57,119
i think he's out in the west coast

2687
01:41:01,350 --> 01:41:00,080
he teaches a rock history class at uc

2688
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:01,360
davis

2689
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:03,280
and he's musical director of the holy

2690
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:05,040
trinity parish

2691
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:07,920
in his neighborhood southern california

2692
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:10,159
his last tour sabino

2693
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:13,280
rob sabino right okay and

2694
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:14,080
he

2695
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:16,960
last toured with todd rundgren

2696
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:18,960
and he wrote tracks for peter frampton

2697
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:21,040
says here

2698
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:23,040
interesting history interesting how he

2699
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:25,360
ends up though

2700
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,320
that

2701
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:28,239
instead of going out there and

2702
01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:30,080
being a rock singer i guess he possibly

2703
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:31,440
just wanted to get married and settle

2704
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:33,679
down and have a normal life and probably

2705
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:35,920
learn to earned a lot of money

2706
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:38,080
from being a musician

2707
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,360
you know that's good you know you have

2708
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:40,960
some of these musicians who think they

2709
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:42,800
can do it until they're a hundred you

2710
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,920
know i'm worried about the rolling

2711
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:45,679
stones where are they now 75 or

2712
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,400
something

2713
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,960
well charlie watts is 80. yeah exactly

2714
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:49,840
okay

2715
01:41:59,700 --> 01:41:51,679
can you identify the sound gene since

2716
01:41:59,710 --> 01:42:05,669
[Applause]

2717
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,229
sounds like a 50 sci-fi movie doesn't it

2718
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:09,760
it sounds a little bit like something

2719
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,320
from forbidden planet yeah exactly

2720
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,679
because

2721
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,760
john neville's original theme when he

2722
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:18,000
was on wor radio with his paranormal

2723
01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:19,840
show back in the 50s

2724
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,639
in the late 50s early 60s he used the

2725
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:24,880
theme from forbidden planet

2726
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:27,040
well you know what that was

2727
01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:51,270
that's dangerous

2728
01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:53,750
now imagine chris as this is playing you

2729
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,159
have people listening to us in their car

2730
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:57,920
they have tune in they have stitcher

2731
01:43:03,109 --> 01:42:59,040
they're listening

2732
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:03,119
from apple's itunes the podcast app or

2733
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,960
one of the others and you're playing

2734
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:07,440
that stuff and they're driving and

2735
01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:11,280
suddenly we run them off the road

2736
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:12,960
well i thought it was cool you know

2737
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,800
we're going from an audio portion of the

2738
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:16,960
show here

2739
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:18,480
ancient audio

2740
01:43:25,510 --> 01:43:23,750
pretty interesting i wonder what makes

2741
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:25,520
that sound i mean i would love to uh

2742
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:29,119
back engineer that that's from space

2743
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,080
uh

2744
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,320
let's see what what the

2745
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:34,560
it's on the strange sounds website but

2746
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:36,400
it had a nasa logo come up at the

2747
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:40,320
beginning of the youtube video

2748
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:43,199
that's pretty interesting i like that

2749
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:44,800
i think with forbidden planet they were

2750
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,760
probably using a pheramin or something

2751
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:49,600
that's a pretty pretty old

2752
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:50,320
yeah

2753
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:52,159
device

2754
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:54,480
yeah i played on one they're fun

2755
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:56,560
well of course good vibrations the beach

2756
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,920
boys

2757
01:44:02,310 --> 01:43:59,280
yeah

2758
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:02,320
and we forget that when we listen to

2759
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:04,719
the things that brian wilson did

2760
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:06,159
number one he was a fan of phil

2761
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,199
spector's production style

2762
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:11,119
wall of sound

2763
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,560
number two

2764
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:14,719
he was deaf in one ear

2765
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:17,360
because of an abusive father

2766
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,119
and he still did all that stuff

2767
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:22,960
well that's a good thing and he's just

2768
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:25,280
finishing up his 50th anniversary a pet

2769
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,960
sounds tour

2770
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:28,639
which is getting rave reviews from all

2771
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:29,840
over

2772
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:46,709
there is nothing wrong with your

2773
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,119
television set we are controlling

2774
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,440
transmission i don't want to do that

2775
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:53,280
that was jupiter

2776
01:44:56,350 --> 01:44:54,320
oh

2777
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:56,360
i knew him well

2778
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:03,350
oh i don't know

2779
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:05,840
now about a year or so ago i ranted a

2780
01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:06,880
movie

2781
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:09,840
a biography of brian wilson known as

2782
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love

2783
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,560
and mercy

2784
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:14,639
in case someone has seen it

2785
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,360
where john cusack plays the older brian

2786
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:18,800
wilson

2787
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,679
i just can't see the resemblance

2788
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:23,520
did you see it

2789
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,920
i did i make a point of watching all

2790
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,239
rock and roll biographies if i can uh if

2791
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:30,400
i if i know about them

2792
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:32,000
more to come with gene and chris you're

2793
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:43,830
thank you for listening to gcn

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sure to visit gcnlive.com today

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2801
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about a beautiful woman pleading for his

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2849
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welcome back to the paracast the gold

2850
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standard of paranormal radio

2851
01:48:07,770 --> 01:48:04,400
and now

2852
01:48:11,510 --> 01:48:07,780
here's jane steinberg

2853
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,109
so therefore if you thought that we

2854
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:15,119
assaulted your ears

2855
01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:17,440
from that synthetic music

2856
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:19,199
chris there he wants your hearing to be

2857
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:20,800
as good as his

2858
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,239
i'm kidding

2859
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,080
shop talk with dean and chris

2860
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,920
how time flies when you're having fun

2861
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:27,920
and we're talking here about

2862
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,320
music and the influences but then we

2863
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:32,320
have all these rock artists who have

2864
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:33,520
some kind of

2865
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:36,639
ufo connection over the years

2866
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:38,400
so even

2867
01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:40,000
i guess we call him an expert teeny

2868
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:42,239
bopper music tommy james was a big ufo

2869
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:43,840
fan

2870
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,480
don't know if he is now but he was years

2871
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:48,239
ago

2872
01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:50,080
the guy from

2873
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,639
the troggs wrench presley

2874
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:55,040
wild thing

2875
01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:56,719
my wife used to record at the recording

2876
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:58,480
studio done by the

2877
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:01,360
guy who wrote wild thing chip taylor

2878
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:04,480
who was really the brother of jon voight

2879
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,760
anyway

2880
01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:07,040
he wrote a book

2881
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:09,760
rage presley on craft circles but he

2882
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:11,440
died a few years ago we never got a

2883
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:13,600
chance to talk to him

2884
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:15,440
then of course there's a song from jimi

2885
01:49:19,189 --> 01:49:16,719
hendrix

2886
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,199
up from the skies

2887
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:21,520
come sail away

2888
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:24,400
remember that song from styx where

2889
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:26,480
they're talking about a starship

2890
01:49:30,070 --> 01:49:28,719
come take me away in the starship that's

2891
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,080
what it's about

2892
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:32,400
if you look at the lyrics

2893
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,840
why is it that

2894
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,520
music stars

2895
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:36,880
seem to have this affinity for

2896
01:49:41,590 --> 01:49:39,600
ufo-related stuff chris is it because

2897
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:41,600
you know they're just interested in

2898
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:44,239
interesting stuff or do they gravitate

2899
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:47,119
towards the subject for some reason

2900
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:50,560
well i i think some some do um david

2901
01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:52,400
bowie

2902
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,400
i got a letter from justin hayward from

2903
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,159
the moody blues after he read my first

2904
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,159
book

2905
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:00,480
there's quite a number of

2906
01:50:03,590 --> 01:50:02,320
rock and rollers that over the years

2907
01:50:05,109 --> 01:50:03,600
have been

2908
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:05,119
quoted as

2909
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:06,800
professing an interest in the subject

2910
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:09,840
not many of them write songs

2911
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:12,480
with that particular subject matter

2912
01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:15,440
but i think far less write songs

2913
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:18,080
about their interest in

2914
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,520
in ufos

2915
01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:21,280
didn't john lennon have a lyric in one

2916
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:23,520
of his songs about nobody told me

2917
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:25,119
there's ufos over in new york and

2918
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:26,880
nobody's too surprised and of course he

2919
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:30,320
had a sighting in 1974. strange days

2920
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,600
indeed

2921
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:32,960
yes

2922
01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:40,790
right and that was right in new york

2923
01:50:48,870 --> 01:50:47,109
i missed it

2924
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:48,880
dang

2925
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:52,960
i took my wife

2926
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,840
to visit her producer to go over music

2927
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:57,199
it's back in

2928
01:51:02,390 --> 01:51:00,400
the starting in the late 70s all right

2929
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,400
we would pass the dakota which is where

2930
01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:04,560
john lennon lived

2931
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,920
but we never saw him although he was

2932
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:07,119
around the neighborhood all the time i

2933
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,960
think we just missed out i was always

2934
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:11,040
missing out with john lennon when he was

2935
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,199
in toronto back in the late 60s doing

2936
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:16,159
this kind of loving in the bedroom

2937
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:19,280
with yoko and they did the recording

2938
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,440
for give peace a chance

2939
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,320
the day after when he left the hotel

2940
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:26,639
i called the hotel in toronto to talk to

2941
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,840
him i missed him by one day

2942
01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:31,119
i think he would have come on the phone

2943
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:32,840
i'd like to think

2944
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:36,320
that but do you think here that

2945
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,159
musicians are interested in ufos because

2946
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:40,159
sometimes a personal experience is like

2947
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:42,159
one of the

2948
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:43,280
rock

2949
01:51:46,629 --> 01:51:44,800
people

2950
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:46,639
is an abductee you know what i'm talking

2951
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:47,679
about

2952
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,800
samuel hagar sammy hagar yeah

2953
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:52,320
it would be great to get him on the show

2954
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:54,080
or um

2955
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:55,440
another one

2956
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,760
black francis or charles thompson from

2957
01:52:01,189 --> 01:51:59,040
the pixies

2958
01:52:02,629 --> 01:52:01,199
the bossa nova album

2959
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,639
that they record i think their fourth

2960
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:03,840
album

2961
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,800
is filled with all sorts of ufo uh theme

2962
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,320
songs and weird

2963
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:10,639
kind of alien themes

2964
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:12,400
and he made a couple of comments and

2965
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,679
interviews that

2966
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:15,360
the songs are based on his own personal

2967
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,679
ufo experiences so he'd be another fun

2968
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:19,199
one to get on

2969
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:22,639
there was a band back in the 70s and i

2970
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:24,639
guess continuing through the 80s

2971
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:27,760
called klatu

2972
01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:29,920
progressive rock band from canada now

2973
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:31,679
remember clock 2 is the name of the

2974
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:33,360
character from the day of the earth

2975
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:34,800
stood still

2976
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:36,560
it was played in the original

2977
01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:38,800
1951 movie by michael rennie so when

2978
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:41,679
someone's using the name klatu

2979
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:43,199
you think you know there's a connection

2980
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:45,599
there and at times some people believe

2981
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:46,880
this band

2982
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:48,560
was really the beatles under another

2983
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:49,599
name

2984
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:52,239
you heard that right clatto

2985
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:54,400
yeah but i i don't think anybody ever

2986
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,639
took that seriously

2987
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:58,719
well i didn't

2988
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,119
but i did take the uh the dukes of

2989
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:04,080
stratosphere seriously

2990
01:53:09,589 --> 01:53:05,760
oh tell me more

2991
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:09,599
well that was the xtc is a

2992
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:16,310
psychedelic band from

2993
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,320
a parallel universe in 67.

2994
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:22,320
we had unusual

2995
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:24,560
bands then

2996
01:53:30,790 --> 01:53:28,480
well xdc was a band up until you know

2997
01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:30,800
maybe 10 years ago um they were really

2998
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:33,199
big in the 80s and 90s

2999
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,679
over in england over in europe

3000
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:37,599
i'm looking for some more uh strange

3001
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:39,360
sounds you want to hear some more

3002
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:40,800
while you're doing that thinking about

3003
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,360
ufos and science fiction connection of

3004
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:45,520
course the race in forbidden plant was

3005
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:47,840
the krell and those of you interested in

3006
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:50,000
audio know that

3007
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:52,000
of an amplifier

3008
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:55,599
called krell with a very strange look to

3009
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,040
it

3010
01:54:02,550 --> 01:53:59,679
you know that don't you chris

3011
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,560
i mean you're not really high-end audio

3012
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:03,840
no

3013
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:04,800
krill

3014
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:06,320
crow

3015
01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:07,119
yeah

3016
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:11,679
right here krell industries

3017
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:13,760
high-end audio equipment and they always

3018
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,960
had unusual industrial designs but krell

3019
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,239
comes from

3020
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:20,320
the movie forbidden planet

3021
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:24,000
that's the race of aliens who died

3022
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:24,800
on

3023
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:26,320
altair iv

3024
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:27,760
and we saw their

3025
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:30,320
relics and their

3026
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,360
monster from the id

3027
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:35,280
and who was it ann francis i think was

3028
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:36,800
in there right

3029
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:39,840
ann francis was the female lead

3030
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:42,320
very much a 50 sensibility

3031
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,880
leslie nielsen played

3032
01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:46,080
the captain

3033
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:48,639
and if you look 10 years later

3034
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:52,080
at captain kirk by william shatner

3035
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:54,320
he learned a lot borrowed a lot from

3036
01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:55,920
forbidden planet he'll never admit it

3037
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:57,280
but he did

3038
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:58,960
that's before leslie nielsen became

3039
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,159
funny

3040
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:02,320
see 20 years later they did airplane and

3041
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:04,719
leslie nielsen was a comedian

3042
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,350
so there you go

3043
01:55:16,550 --> 01:55:13,440
as we talk about

3044
01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:16,560
the rock star ufo connection

3045
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:19,280
i have another weird sound for you

3046
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:22,159
other than my speaking voice yeah

3047
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:23,760
go lay it on me

3048
01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:25,119
all right

3049
01:55:30,709 --> 01:55:28,880
this is the uh the infamous wow signal

3050
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:30,719
picked up by seti

3051
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:33,360
back in august 77

3052
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:35,199
and this uh may or may not have been

3053
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:37,280
some sort of coherent

3054
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:39,760
uh audio frequency that was broadcast as

3055
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:42,400
opposed to just naturally occurring

3056
01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:55,070
so

3057
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:17,750
[Music]

3058
01:56:23,430 --> 01:56:19,840
i think i'm going to sample this and

3059
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:25,510
oh well

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nothing wrong

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you know they don't do that anymore on

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tv shows they don't have these

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two minute introductions now it's

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part of the show begins

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nowadays do you see

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opening music of more than maybe 30

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seconds

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they do that with movies too of course

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by the way

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most movies these days they open with

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figure it out

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i guess they don't have time anymore

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he is speaking

3204
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like a robot

3205
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:15,920
but nowadays robots aren't supposed to

3206
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:19,119
speak like roberts anymore right

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02:02:23,189 --> 02:02:20,800
since hal

3208
02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:23,199
since the star trek computer

3209
02:02:26,390 --> 02:02:25,520
you think of the old-fashioned computer

3210
02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:26,400
voice

3211
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:27,920
that was like forbidden planet robbie

3212
02:02:31,669 --> 02:02:29,360
the robot

3213
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:31,679
dave

3214
02:02:39,510 --> 02:02:37,440
my voice

3215
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:39,520
is its own

3216
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:41,599
forget it

3217
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,840
my name isn't dave sir

3218
02:02:50,149 --> 02:02:46,719
dave

3219
02:02:53,109 --> 02:02:50,159
number sir

3220
02:02:56,310 --> 02:02:53,119
don't turn me off dave

3221
02:02:58,310 --> 02:02:56,320
turn you off i'm going to cut your voice

3222
02:03:00,310 --> 02:02:58,320
i'm going to cut your voice over i'm

3223
02:03:03,030 --> 02:03:00,320
going to make it disappear i'm gonna

3224
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:03,040
burn your circuits

3225
02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:05,040
dave

3226
02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:07,040
chris has been taken over by alien

3227
02:03:11,669 --> 02:03:09,280
entities i'm sorry ladies and gentlemen

3228
02:03:13,589 --> 02:03:11,679
these things happen to the best of radio

3229
02:03:14,709 --> 02:03:13,599
shows in fact it might be unique how

3230
02:03:17,510 --> 02:03:14,719
many people

3231
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:17,520
have gone on a paranormal radio show

3232
02:03:21,669 --> 02:03:19,440
and been taken over by aliens not

3233
02:03:23,830 --> 02:03:21,679
channeling because who believes that

3234
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:23,840
oh speaking of channeling there's this

3235
02:03:29,830 --> 02:03:25,840
lady who sends me a note on facebook

3236
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:29,840
every couple of weeks to meet the beings

3237
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,320
from zeta reticuli

3238
02:03:36,229 --> 02:03:34,239
all right someone's channeling them

3239
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:36,239
she's trying to sell this thing

3240
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:38,639
so i simply respond zeta reticuli is a

3241
02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:41,040
binary star system

3242
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:43,679
and doesn't appear there are any

3243
02:03:47,189 --> 02:03:45,440
exoplanets there that might be

3244
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:47,199
considered earth-like

3245
02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:53,430
every time she posted i post that

3246
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:55,840
response

3247
02:03:59,669 --> 02:03:56,800
check

3248
02:04:02,470 --> 02:03:59,679
there are no known planets orbiting zeta

3249
02:04:04,229 --> 02:04:02,480
reticuli it is a binary star system she

3250
02:04:07,350 --> 02:04:04,239
thinks i think

3251
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:07,360
that zeta reticuli is a planet

3252
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:09,520
i think that comes from

3253
02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:13,119
barney and betty hill in the star map

3254
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:14,800
how about the number stations we should

3255
02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:17,599
do a show on the number stations

3256
02:04:24,629 --> 02:04:19,119
give our listeners a preview of what

3257
02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:30,070
two two five one

3258
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:35,430
two one one zero

3259
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:39,510
eight one zero

3260
02:04:44,070 --> 02:04:41,430
these have been going on for years uh

3261
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:44,080
shortwave broadcasts of uh sequential

3262
02:04:48,550 --> 02:04:45,920
series of numbers

3263
02:04:49,990 --> 02:04:48,560
by a female voice and nobody knows what

3264
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,000
the hell they are

3265
02:04:54,629 --> 02:04:52,320
they're done in english

3266
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:54,639
first reported in 82 uh there may have

3267
02:05:00,070 --> 02:04:57,760
been earlier ones in the 70s

3268
02:05:02,070 --> 02:05:00,080
but um

3269
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:02,080
it's really creepy because they're very

3270
02:05:05,350 --> 02:05:03,920
consistent in that

3271
02:05:08,790 --> 02:05:05,360
um they're

3272
02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:08,800
always about the same length they

3273
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:11,520
also emit some weird sort of

3274
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:14,800
buzzing sound uh about 25

3275
02:05:18,950 --> 02:05:16,880
times per minute

3276
02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:18,960
and um and then occasionally it's

3277
02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:20,719
interrupted by a russian voice uh

3278
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:23,440
speaking names and numbers

3279
02:05:27,510 --> 02:05:25,599
they're totally bizarre no no one's ever

3280
02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:27,520
to my knowledge been able to figure them

3281
02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:28,400
out

3282
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:29,599
it's not something for russian

3283
02:05:33,030 --> 02:05:31,760
intelligence agents

3284
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:33,040
possibly

3285
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:35,119
they think it's emanating from russia

3286
02:05:40,070 --> 02:05:36,880
but

3287
02:05:41,589 --> 02:05:40,080
they're not really sure

3288
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:41,599
i would think that with today's

3289
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:45,119
technology they could trace these things

3290
02:05:49,830 --> 02:05:46,960
yeah i don't think they've been been

3291
02:05:51,430 --> 02:05:49,840
broadcasting for a while but

3292
02:05:54,229 --> 02:05:51,440
um

3293
02:05:56,070 --> 02:05:54,239
anyway i need to do a little bit of uh

3294
02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:56,080
work on that how about that weird alien

3295
02:06:02,629 --> 02:05:59,840
broadcast from again 1977

3296
02:06:05,350 --> 02:06:02,639
that interrupted the bbc

3297
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:05,360
and uh had some like doomsday message

3298
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:07,199
for the entire

3299
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:14,149
explain this stuff to our listeners when

3300
02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:16,239
you drop a point like this not everybody

3301
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:18,239
gets the connection

3302
02:06:24,629 --> 02:06:22,229
this particular thing you're talking it

3303
02:06:26,629 --> 02:06:24,639
was a pirated uh

3304
02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:26,639
few minutes on the bbc all of a sudden

3305
02:06:31,109 --> 02:06:28,840
the voice broke in and said the

3306
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:31,119
following the israeli nationalist leader

3307
02:06:35,189 --> 02:06:32,560
bishop abel

3308
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:35,199
this is the broadcast and then it's

3309
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:37,679
being interrupted here in a second

3310
02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:40,800
let me see if i can skip to

3311
02:06:51,740 --> 02:06:43,270
here we go

3312
02:06:57,130 --> 02:06:54,229
[Music]

3313
02:07:07,970 --> 02:06:57,140
is

3314
02:07:07,980 --> 02:07:17,669
[Music]

3315
02:07:22,470 --> 02:07:20,390
you know i think of when i heard that

3316
02:07:25,350 --> 02:07:22,480
a scene from the movie earth versus the

3317
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:25,360
flying saucers where the aliens speak on

3318
02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:27,440
our broadcast systems

3319
02:07:32,470 --> 02:07:31,280
in the native language in each country

3320
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:32,480
you know saying people of earth

3321
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:35,040
attention people of earth attention

3322
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:36,719
that kind of thing

3323
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:38,159
and the voice sounds like it went

3324
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:40,800
through a flanger or something

3325
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:42,639
remember that

3326
02:07:53,589 --> 02:07:49,109
but this particular incident was never

3327
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:55,589
there was no i'd have to again i'd have

3328
02:08:01,350 --> 02:07:58,639
to kind of re-refresh my memory

3329
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:01,360
on what the bbc's uh response was to

3330
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:06,229
it says the broadcast is considered a

3331
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:07,920
hoax but the source of the transmission

3332
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:09,520
and the culprit responsible have never

3333
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:10,960
been found

3334
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:13,360
so evidently uh

3335
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:16,159
this was a successful example of early

3336
02:08:20,870 --> 02:08:17,520
hacking

3337
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:20,880
back in the old analog days in 77

3338
02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:22,719
and uh

3339
02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:24,560
i think it was another one too during

3340
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:26,159
doctor who

3341
02:08:32,790 --> 02:08:30,159
didn't max headroom uh appear

3342
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:32,800
on uh that's too trivial for me i'm not

3343
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:34,960
that great on in

3344
02:08:40,149 --> 02:08:38,880
would have been november 22nd 87

3345
02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:40,159
the

3346
02:08:45,109 --> 02:08:42,880
character max headroom from a 80's tv

3347
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:45,119
show evidently uh

3348
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:46,880
interrupted a doctor who broadcast the

3349
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:50,880
bbc's got tightened up their uh

3350
02:08:54,719 --> 02:08:59,189
evidently

3351
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:01,350
well there's also the famous

3352
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,119
recording of what

3353
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:05,040
may have been a russian cosmonaut the

3354
02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:07,199
first woman in space

3355
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:08,880
uh

3356
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:11,119
descending to her death i think into the

3357
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:12,560
atmosphere

3358
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:14,560
that's an interesting one

3359
02:09:17,030 --> 02:09:16,079
i don't know what got me on this kick

3360
02:09:19,109 --> 02:09:17,040
but

3361
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:19,119
i love mysterious uh

3362
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:20,880
audio uh

3363
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:23,360
electronic voice phenomenon

3364
02:09:28,229 --> 02:09:25,920
uh recordings for instance uh you know

3365
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:28,239
very controversial but

3366
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:32,320
one project that i've been working on

3367
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:34,480
kind of back burner but

3368
02:09:40,870 --> 02:09:37,360
we're really serious on doing it

3369
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:40,880
with michael esposito a good friend and

3370
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:42,800
audio

3371
02:09:48,950 --> 02:09:45,599
ex

3372
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:51,189
armed forces member during desert storm

3373
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:53,760
acoustics expert

3374
02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:55,599
has traveled around the world doing

3375
02:10:02,149 --> 02:09:58,960
really cool evp recordings and

3376
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,159
i suggested that we do recordings at

3377
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:04,800
native american massacre sites and if we

3378
02:10:08,310 --> 02:10:06,239
could pick up

3379
02:10:10,069 --> 02:10:08,320
particular dialects of native american

3380
02:10:10,870 --> 02:10:10,079
in some of these recordings i think it

3381
02:10:13,109 --> 02:10:10,880
would

3382
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:13,119
go a long way to

3383
02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:16,000
precluding any um

3384
02:10:19,109 --> 02:10:16,880
you know

3385
02:10:20,709 --> 02:10:19,119
complaints that this is a hoax or

3386
02:10:22,229 --> 02:10:20,719
people you know thinking that this was

3387
02:10:24,709 --> 02:10:22,239
all just

3388
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:24,719
fun and games and being staged by the uh

3389
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:26,560
by the investigators

3390
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,159
that's fascinating enough that we take

3391
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:30,159
it to our next segment okay

3392
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:32,079
with gene and chris you're in the

3393
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3448
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did you buy a new one no i caught geeks

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3450
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3451
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you mean they didn't ask you to bring

3452
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your computer to a shop that's what

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dr joe wallock is not your typical

3470
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doctor both a veterinarian and

3471
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:54,800
naturopathic physician dr wallach asked

3472
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,560
why does america spend more money on

3473
02:14:00,629 --> 02:13:58,800
health care by far and yet ranks 50th in

3474
02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:00,639
health and longevity worldwide the

3475
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:02,239
doctor believes that people should be

3476
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:04,000
empowered with a basic understanding of

3477
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nutrition then take charge of their life

3478
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to attain optimal health and longevity

3479
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:09,440
through nutrition not by toxic

3480
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:11,280
prescription drugs that lead to side

3481
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:13,040
effects requiring more toxic

3482
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:14,880
prescription drugs talk about being

3483
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,719
dependent on drug companies to our own

3484
02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:18,880
destruction no less this is clearly a

3485
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:21,119
deadly recipe doc wallach's message is

3486
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:22,719
resonating with an increasing number of

3487
02:14:26,470 --> 02:14:24,639
americans who are waking up to all the

3488
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:26,480
government and big pharma manipulation

3489
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:28,480
of our health care system i like what

3490
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:30,320
doc wallach is saying and doing to

3491
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:32,000
enlighten people and have joined forces

3492
02:14:35,390 --> 02:14:33,760
to help this tireless crusader spread

3493
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his message visit

3494
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gcnminerals.com and listen to dr

3495
02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:39,280
wallach's deadly recipes lecture it

3496
02:14:44,109 --> 02:14:41,440
makes a lot of sense and i invite you to

3497
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join the gcn minerals team go to

3498
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:54,550
hi this is james fox from chasing ufos

3499
02:15:03,109 --> 02:14:56,719
you're listening to the paracast the

3500
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:05,109
his voice is breaking up

3501
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:07,440
i am controlling transmission i will

3502
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:09,360
make his voice high

3503
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:11,040
say something chris

3504
02:15:14,709 --> 02:15:12,400
something chris

3505
02:15:15,540 --> 02:15:14,719
i will make his voice low say something

3506
02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:15,550
chris

3507
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:20,950
i think i made it rough rather than low

3508
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:22,480
there well my skills are still being

3509
02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:24,159
perfected

3510
02:15:27,510 --> 02:15:26,079
i need to talk to the beings from zeta

3511
02:15:29,030 --> 02:15:27,520
reticuli

3512
02:15:30,229 --> 02:15:29,040
that's the answer

3513
02:15:32,470 --> 02:15:30,239
right there

3514
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:32,480
but looking at this over the years

3515
02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:34,000
how many of these episodes would you

3516
02:15:42,020 --> 02:15:40,790
um i don't think many um possibly

3517
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:42,030
misidentifying

3518
02:15:46,149 --> 02:15:43,199
[Music]

3519
02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:46,159
stray audio uh possible ghost radio

3520
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:48,079
broadcast that sort of thing but

3521
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:50,400
a lot of it and i think a vast majority

3522
02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:52,320
of it does indicate that there is some

3523
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:54,159
sort of acoustic evidence that's out

3524
02:15:59,030 --> 02:15:56,079
there waiting to be gathered

3525
02:16:00,310 --> 02:15:59,040
um i've been involved in too many

3526
02:16:02,069 --> 02:16:00,320
real-time

3527
02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:02,079
investigations where this type of

3528
02:16:05,669 --> 02:16:04,320
evidence has been gathered and being in

3529
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:05,679
the room

3530
02:16:10,149 --> 02:16:07,840
during the process and signing off on

3531
02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:10,159
the evidence chain

3532
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:11,679
leads me to believe that there is a true

3533
02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:13,599
mystery here

3534
02:16:19,109 --> 02:16:16,000
there may be some you know mundane or

3535
02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:19,119
natural explanations for it

3536
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:21,119
for some of them but

3537
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:22,880
some of them are just too too well

3538
02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:25,440
recorded and uh

3539
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:27,040
and too enigmatic

3540
02:16:31,589 --> 02:16:30,079
enough so that i actually

3541
02:16:33,910 --> 02:16:31,599
took a bunch of old grooves i had

3542
02:16:36,990 --> 02:16:33,920
hanging around and put a bunch of evps

3543
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:37,000
on top and weird you know weird

3544
02:16:41,589 --> 02:16:39,599
instrumentation uh

3545
02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:41,599
and found sounds and weird samples and

3546
02:16:45,830 --> 02:16:42,800
stuff but there's quite a number of

3547
02:16:47,509 --> 02:16:45,840
ghost voices on the medea album project

3548
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:47,519
and

3549
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:49,359
there's even a recording of a parrot

3550
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:52,000
that only knew six words

3551
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:53,439
when he was hanging in his house but as

3552
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:55,120
soon as he gets taken to a haunted site

3553
02:16:58,870 --> 02:16:57,359
he starts talking in sentences answering

3554
02:17:00,469 --> 02:16:58,880
questions

3555
02:17:01,429 --> 02:17:00,479
using uh

3556
02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:01,439
words that

3557
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:03,040
he's never used before and then would

3558
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,719
never use since

3559
02:17:08,389 --> 02:17:06,479
uh

3560
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:08,399
that particular

3561
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:09,760
those particular recordings are quite

3562
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:13,439
compelling i have no explanation

3563
02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:15,840
for that but um

3564
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:18,000
i think audio is a is a it's a wonderful

3565
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:19,599
world to play in

3566
02:17:24,790 --> 02:17:22,960
and uh i continue to do so

3567
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:24,800
do you have personal examples other than

3568
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:26,800
the ones you played which are

3569
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:28,479
modestly well known

3570
02:17:31,669 --> 02:17:30,559
of weird stuff that

3571
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,679
is 100

3572
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:33,840
something that couldn't have been faked

3573
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:35,920
because anything you're playing there

3574
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,160
given the technology may be difficult to

3575
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:40,399
fake and probably was not fake but

3576
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:43,439
anything that's ironclad

3577
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:46,240
nothing's gonna be ironclad but um i do

3578
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:48,800
have you know some

3579
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:51,040
here's a combination of a bunch of stuff

3580
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:53,040
that i did

3581
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:55,359
let's see

3582
02:18:02,150 --> 02:17:58,800
we tried this on the radio before and it

3583
02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:02,160
was it was really rough to get the um

3584
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:04,399
recordings to really come across i think

3585
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:06,000
over the air

3586
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:06,880
uh

3587
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:12,160
playing them low-res versions of them

3588
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:14,319
let me see here

3589
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:15,679
i should have my album right here oh

3590
02:18:20,870 --> 02:18:17,519
here it is

3591
02:18:22,870 --> 02:18:20,880
i'll go ahead and open this

3592
02:18:26,070 --> 02:18:22,880
and get to the end where i just play a

3593
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:26,080
bunch of the i loop the uh

3594
02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:28,399
evp sounds together

3595
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:31,599
let's see if i can find it here

3596
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,399
oh dead air

3597
02:18:45,510 --> 02:18:36,479
it's coming up here in a minute

3598
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:56,309
[Music]

3599
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:12,709
oh

3600
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:15,270
there you go

3601
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,389
what does that tell us

3602
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:21,270
what language is that

3603
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:24,080
it was all in english uh didn't sound

3604
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:26,479
that clear though

3605
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:28,240
yeah uh the

3606
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:29,359
the voice that you hear in the

3607
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,240
background with um

3608
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:34,399
is michael actually asking questions

3609
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:36,399
during an evp session and then some of

3610
02:19:40,309 --> 02:19:39,040
the answers are are interspersed around

3611
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:40,319
that

3612
02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:53,830
those parrots are weird i digress

3613
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:55,840
you do but we had a show with michael

3614
02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:57,760
esposito how many years ago three years

3615
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:00,000
ago four years ago now it was longer

3616
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:03,280
than that it was back in 2010 i think

3617
02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:04,800
i'll look it up but we should bring them

3618
02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:06,800
back that sounds like something that has

3619
02:20:11,110 --> 02:20:08,720
not been explored

3620
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:11,120
well yeah and i think you know the ghost

3621
02:20:16,710 --> 02:20:13,359
the ghost craze i think ghost hunter

3622
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:16,720
craze has been totally whacked upside

3623
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:19,600
the head by a lot of fakery and

3624
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:22,240
accusations of um

3625
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:25,040
over dramatizing uh some of these shows

3626
02:20:27,910 --> 02:20:26,800
and and whatnot

3627
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:27,920
but uh

3628
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:30,319
i do really still feel that this is a

3629
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,720
very very loo could be a very

3630
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,720
rewarding avenue of investigative

3631
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:36,479
research and

3632
02:20:40,550 --> 02:20:37,920
to go to san

3633
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:40,560
san creek uh wounded knee

3634
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:41,760
and um

3635
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:43,439
i have a list of other massacre sites

3636
02:20:47,349 --> 02:20:44,399
that

3637
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,359
would be fairly easy to

3638
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:49,600
visit and

3639
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:51,600
do some evp recordings and see what we

3640
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:53,680
could

3641
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:56,640
find that'd be very interesting

3642
02:21:01,190 --> 02:20:58,319
so when you start getting recordings of

3643
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:01,200
languages that are little known

3644
02:21:06,710 --> 02:21:04,240
michael went to a potawatomi uh massacre

3645
02:21:09,349 --> 02:21:06,720
site some years back and got

3646
02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:09,359
an evp of of a native american language

3647
02:21:12,469 --> 02:21:11,040
that nobody could identify and it took

3648
02:21:14,309 --> 02:21:12,479
him quite a bit of

3649
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:14,319
effort and energy to

3650
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,000
find somebody that was able to id what

3651
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:18,240
dialect of language was and it turns out

3652
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:20,640
it's an extinct form of potawatomi that

3653
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:22,319
only three scholars if i remember

3654
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:23,600
correctly

3655
02:21:28,150 --> 02:21:25,520
was still new

3656
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:28,160
the language and so that to me is pretty

3657
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:30,640
good evidence that it wasn't a hoax

3658
02:21:33,030 --> 02:21:31,439
and

3659
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:33,040
that prompted me to come up with the

3660
02:21:38,389 --> 02:21:35,680
idea of maybe visiting a number of these

3661
02:21:39,590 --> 02:21:38,399
types of sites and seeing if we could

3662
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:39,600
um

3663
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:41,520
you know find some uh native american

3664
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:43,200
dialects uh going on

3665
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,680
michael did a a session in

3666
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:48,000
the basement of the coliseum in rome

3667
02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:49,920
where the gladiators used to be hanging

3668
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:51,200
out before

3669
02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:53,280
uh they were brought upstairs for the

3670
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:55,200
entertainment of the masses and um and

3671
02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:58,319
where the dead gladiators were hauled

3672
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:00,720
or what was left of them all down

3673
02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:03,120
out of the arena and uh according to him

3674
02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:05,600
he got five distinct languages

3675
02:22:10,790 --> 02:22:08,720
there greek latin um

3676
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:10,800
i think some form of arabic

3677
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:14,080
possibly gaelic uh some gaelic language

3678
02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:15,040
um

3679
02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:19,520
was pretty impressed with the results

3680
02:22:24,469 --> 02:22:22,080
um it's kind of that's the kind of uh

3681
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:24,479
field work that uh

3682
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:27,040
well at least it's one of

3683
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:28,880
several kinds of fieldwork that i i find

3684
02:22:32,950 --> 02:22:30,960
very compelling and

3685
02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:32,960
and um

3686
02:22:36,469 --> 02:22:34,800
very scintillating i think there's a lot

3687
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:36,479
of

3688
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:41,990
avenues that could be gone down in this

3689
02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:43,920
realm that have not been

3690
02:22:47,750 --> 02:22:45,200
i think

3691
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:47,760
fully investigated and

3692
02:22:52,150 --> 02:22:50,000
this would be one area that i think in

3693
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:52,160
terms of acoustic research that i'd be

3694
02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:53,680
very very interested in

3695
02:22:58,150 --> 02:22:56,080
in getting further involved with if i

3696
02:22:59,270 --> 02:22:58,160
didn't have so many dang jobs that i had

3697
02:23:00,950 --> 02:22:59,280
to do to

3698
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:00,960
afford to be able to spend two hours

3699
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:03,439
every week with all the listeners

3700
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,600
well the thing of course is that

3701
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:07,840
we should also bring back michael

3702
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:09,520
esposito

3703
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:12,800
it was october of 2010 october 17th that

3704
02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:14,080
we had him on

3705
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:16,240
and we presented some recordings at the

3706
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:18,399
time that were really fascinating

3707
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:20,160
and i think the time has long since

3708
02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:21,680
passed

3709
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:24,240
that we should do that again

3710
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:26,800
an avant-garde

3711
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:28,640
electronic

3712
02:23:33,429 --> 02:23:30,399
music artist

3713
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,439
with found sounds industrial sounds

3714
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:35,200
and he um

3715
02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:37,040
he provided quite a number of elements

3716
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:38,640
for for the album that i released uh

3717
02:23:43,030 --> 02:23:41,280
some months back uh medea

3718
02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:43,040
and um

3719
02:23:46,389 --> 02:23:44,800
there's some cool stuff that i found too

3720
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:46,399
like

3721
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:49,680
aztec death whistles i discovered

3722
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:53,200
uh just accidentally on online

3723
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:54,880
evidently the aztecs when they would

3724
02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:59,830
a lot of the warriors would have their

3725
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:02,000
personal death whistle

3726
02:24:06,389 --> 02:24:04,640
and they all kind of sound similar but

3727
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:06,399
uh each one obviously because they're

3728
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:07,600
handmade

3729
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:09,760
has a slightly different tone a slightly

3730
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:11,680
different quality to it

3731
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:13,920
but if you times that by ten thousand or

3732
02:24:17,429 --> 02:24:15,920
however many guys were charging blowing

3733
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:17,439
these things

3734
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:19,840
well i'll tell you i'd

3735
02:24:23,750 --> 02:24:21,439
that's get

3736
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:23,760
all sorts of things out of me

3737
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:25,359
before we get too scared we've got a

3738
02:24:32,740 --> 02:24:27,200
segment left with gina and chris you're

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abdominal aortic aneurysm after taking

3815
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:36,640
the prescription antibiotic drugs

3816
02:27:40,550 --> 02:27:38,800
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3817
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antibiotic drugs have been prescribed

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more than 80 million times since 2004

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and medical studies show an increased

3820
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3823
02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:53,200
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3824
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02:28:00,550 --> 02:27:58,960
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3827
02:28:03,030 --> 02:28:00,560
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3846
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3849
02:29:12,469 --> 02:29:10,640
so it's us just us and some weird sounds

3850
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:12,479
gene and chris talking shop we haven't

3851
02:29:17,349 --> 02:29:14,880
really done that in detail since last

3852
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:17,359
year we were talking about music rock

3853
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:19,840
stars and ufos weird

3854
02:29:24,950 --> 02:29:22,800
sounds and all sorts of other things

3855
02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:24,960
but a lot of this is not part of the ufo

3856
02:29:28,710 --> 02:29:26,560
lexicon

3857
02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:28,720
you know if you look at ufos being

3858
02:29:31,750 --> 02:29:30,960
spaceships well i would think

3859
02:29:33,429 --> 02:29:31,760
that

3860
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:33,439
they have some kind of

3861
02:29:37,030 --> 02:29:35,120
communication system some kind of radio

3862
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:37,040
based system of course we could all say

3863
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:39,040
they're using subspace radio

3864
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:40,960
and we never hear them and that's why

3865
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:43,120
they don't listen to our

3866
02:29:46,870 --> 02:29:45,280
efforts they're not aware of our efforts

3867
02:29:48,070 --> 02:29:46,880
to use seti to pick up radio

3868
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:48,080
transmissions

3869
02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:49,680
because et is not using those

3870
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:51,840
frequencies well that's the excuse

3871
02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:52,800
anyway

3872
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:54,640
but i wonder if they actually received

3873
02:29:57,429 --> 02:29:56,000
something do you think we'd ever hear

3874
02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:57,439
about it

3875
02:30:02,710 --> 02:30:00,319
well it depends i mean you know we're

3876
02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:02,720
only aware of a very limited swath of

3877
02:30:07,270 --> 02:30:03,439
the

3878
02:30:10,469 --> 02:30:07,280
speak in dog whistle tones and

3879
02:30:12,070 --> 02:30:10,479
everything is above 50 000 cycles

3880
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:12,080
dog whistles when you say that i think

3881
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:13,600
about political

3882
02:30:18,150 --> 02:30:15,280
extremists

3883
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:18,160
sending messages of prejudice

3884
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:20,560
veiled thinly veiled therefore dog

3885
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:21,840
whistles

3886
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:23,520
well it's actually a very high pitched

3887
02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:25,120
whistle that only

3888
02:30:28,950 --> 02:30:26,640
certain animals can hear because their

3889
02:30:32,710 --> 02:30:28,960
hearing is so cute they can hear

3890
02:30:35,030 --> 02:30:32,720
above 40 or 50 000 cycles well i think

3891
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,040
with my dog what he hears and i'll give

3892
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:37,760
you an example of this which we all know

3893
02:30:41,670 --> 02:30:38,880
so

3894
02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:41,680
i will go to grab his leash he's in the

3895
02:30:47,349 --> 02:30:43,439
other room asleep

3896
02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:47,359
on the bed teddy bear i walk over to

3897
02:30:49,429 --> 02:30:48,399
the door

3898
02:30:51,990 --> 02:30:49,439
in

3899
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:52,000
end of this

3900
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:54,640
house or slum or whatever this place is

3901
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:57,520
and i go to get the leash

3902
02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:58,960
i turn around he's right there ready to

3903
02:31:02,309 --> 02:31:01,040
go out so what is he hearing is he

3904
02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:02,319
hearing

3905
02:31:06,550 --> 02:31:04,640
the sound of me going

3906
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:06,560
to the back door where the leash is on

3907
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:07,359
the

3908
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:08,080
right

3909
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:10,640
i would guess it's uh some sort of um

3910
02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:13,120
ole factory thing dogs have incredible

3911
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:15,520
noses some dogs can smell parts per

3912
02:31:20,309 --> 02:31:18,080
trillion all breeds of dogs can smell

3913
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:20,319
parts per million in high millions

3914
02:31:23,510 --> 02:31:22,640
and so possibly he's identified with a

3915
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:23,520
certain

3916
02:31:27,910 --> 02:31:25,840
uh hormone or secretion that your body

3917
02:31:29,990 --> 02:31:27,920
gives off when your brain tells you that

3918
02:31:32,230 --> 02:31:30,000
you're going to be going outside that

3919
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:32,240
may send up out some sort of olfactory

3920
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:34,960
signal that he's able to pick up on

3921
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:36,560
well the other instance would be if i

3922
02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:38,160
take him out at night for his evening

3923
02:31:41,910 --> 02:31:39,040
walk

3924
02:31:44,710 --> 02:31:41,920
and all i do is i go into my office area

3925
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:44,720
which chris knows about he's been here

3926
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:45,600
and

3927
02:31:50,710 --> 02:31:49,200
from him until i pick up my shirt as

3928
02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:50,720
soon as i pick up the shirt there he is

3929
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:52,319
ready to go out

3930
02:31:54,309 --> 02:31:53,280
yeah

3931
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:54,319
there you go

3932
02:31:57,830 --> 02:31:56,560
he's obviously been in trained by

3933
02:32:00,790 --> 02:31:57,840
certain signals

3934
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:00,800
dogs are very good at picking up

3935
02:32:05,990 --> 02:32:04,240
repetition cats are too my cat will sit

3936
02:32:07,030 --> 02:32:06,000
on the roof right outside my bedroom

3937
02:32:09,510 --> 02:32:07,040
window

3938
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:09,520
and as soon as i wake up

3939
02:32:13,670 --> 02:32:11,920
it doesn't matter if i move or not

3940
02:32:14,710 --> 02:32:13,680
she lets out of me out she wants to come

3941
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:14,720
in

3942
02:32:20,469 --> 02:32:18,160
some sort of weird

3943
02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:20,479
psychic radar that picks up exactly when

3944
02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:23,359
i i actually become wakeful and

3945
02:32:26,550 --> 02:32:24,560
conscious

3946
02:32:27,429 --> 02:32:26,560
then she'll meow she she never wakes me

3947
02:32:29,190 --> 02:32:27,439
up

3948
02:32:31,030 --> 02:32:29,200
from meowing there's always a bit of a

3949
02:32:32,870 --> 02:32:31,040
lag between the time i wake up and it's

3950
02:32:34,389 --> 02:32:32,880
always questioning me out like are you

3951
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:34,399
awake

3952
02:32:37,670 --> 02:32:36,160
you know

3953
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:37,680
she's so cute

3954
02:32:43,030 --> 02:32:40,479
we were visited by a family of four cats

3955
02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:43,040
mama and three kittens

3956
02:32:46,950 --> 02:32:45,280
and barbara made the mistake

3957
02:32:49,349 --> 02:32:46,960
of deciding to make sure they're well

3958
02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:49,359
fed so they've been hanging around this

3959
02:32:53,910 --> 02:32:51,840
house for a number of months

3960
02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,920
unfortunately we have to leave soon

3961
02:32:57,910 --> 02:32:56,080
because the landlord sold the place and

3962
02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:57,920
wants us out we're not going to be in a

3963
02:33:01,910 --> 02:32:59,359
position to take those cats with us

3964
02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:01,920
she's slightly allergic to cats

3965
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:04,720
so if anybody who lives in or around

3966
02:33:09,030 --> 02:33:07,840
phoenix wants a family of cats

3967
02:33:11,190 --> 02:33:09,040
we got him

3968
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:11,200
chris you want to take him home

3969
02:33:13,990 --> 02:33:12,640
uh no gene

3970
02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:14,000
serious get in touch with us on the

3971
02:33:17,830 --> 02:33:16,000
power camp we have a lot of listeners

3972
02:33:19,510 --> 02:33:17,840
in and around phoenix so if you want to

3973
02:33:20,630 --> 02:33:19,520
have a family of cats they're going to

3974
02:33:22,230 --> 02:33:20,640
have to be

3975
02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:22,240
checked by the vet and neutered and all

3976
02:33:27,190 --> 02:33:24,640
that stuff but there they are i found an

3977
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:27,200
aztec death whistle you did

3978
02:33:32,790 --> 02:33:29,680
i want to show you this

3979
02:33:35,270 --> 02:33:32,800
i want to share with you this

3980
02:33:38,469 --> 02:33:35,280
very unique instrument

3981
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:38,479
we call the dead whistle the deadly

3982
02:33:42,550 --> 02:33:40,960
whistle the aztec use for special

3983
02:33:44,630 --> 02:33:42,560
ceremonies

3984
02:33:47,590 --> 02:33:44,640
for day of the dead celebration

3985
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:47,600
and also they use when they have a

3986
02:33:53,030 --> 02:33:48,399
war

3987
02:33:58,870 --> 02:33:55,750
they play over a hundred instruments

3988
02:34:00,950 --> 02:33:58,880
a hundred dead whistles

3989
02:34:03,270 --> 02:34:00,960
marching

3990
02:34:04,389 --> 02:34:03,280
and make a lot of noise

3991
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:04,399
to

3992
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:08,800
enemy

3993
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:11,520
so this is very intimidating instruments

3994
02:34:29,030 --> 02:34:13,520
and it's very unique

3995
02:34:33,030 --> 02:34:31,110
i could just hear people in their cars

3996
02:34:34,309 --> 02:34:33,040
going off the road now i have to tell

3997
02:34:36,070 --> 02:34:34,319
you something

3998
02:34:37,750 --> 02:34:36,080
we have a stinger that we use on the

3999
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:37,760
power cast for

4000
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:39,520
the close after chris or someone says

4001
02:34:42,550 --> 02:34:40,880
the power cast

4002
02:34:45,349 --> 02:34:42,560
we use two short

4003
02:34:47,510 --> 02:34:45,359
musical stingers one is from radiohead

4004
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:47,520
like about nine seconds worth

4005
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:50,319
and one is a stinger from the tv show

4006
02:34:54,469 --> 02:34:52,160
the outer limits it takes about six and

4007
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:54,479
a half seconds and one of our listeners

4008
02:34:58,790 --> 02:34:56,720
hears the one from the outer limits and

4009
02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:58,800
has a freak session says my god that's

4010
02:35:01,429 --> 02:35:00,080
so jarring

4011
02:35:03,270 --> 02:35:01,439
can you do something about it it's

4012
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:03,280
coming in at a much louder volume now

4013
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:04,800
it's actually not it's just very

4014
02:35:09,429 --> 02:35:06,720
compressed the

4015
02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:09,439
volume of all the content on the show is

4016
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:12,880
equalized by a computer algorithm and

4017
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:15,200
it's got to be fairly accurate but

4018
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:16,399
sometimes when something's very

4019
02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:18,720
compressed it's a musical sound it

4020
02:35:22,790 --> 02:35:21,439
sounds louder it's what it explains loud

4021
02:35:26,469 --> 02:35:22,800
commercials

4022
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:26,479
compressed therefore the average

4023
02:35:30,309 --> 02:35:27,600
loudness

4024
02:35:31,349 --> 02:35:30,319
is higher than the normal speaking voice

4025
02:35:33,190 --> 02:35:31,359
and thus

4026
02:35:35,429 --> 02:35:33,200
you have loud commercials

4027
02:35:37,349 --> 02:35:35,439
did i explain myself at all

4028
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,359
kinda although it's not so much

4029
02:35:42,630 --> 02:35:39,600
equalized as its

4030
02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:42,640
limited it has a very compressed and uh

4031
02:35:45,510 --> 02:35:44,319
narrow bandwidth

4032
02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:45,520
of which

4033
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:47,920
the entire program is is made to conform

4034
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:48,880
to

4035
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:50,560
a high pass filter and a low-pass filter

4036
02:35:52,389 --> 02:35:51,280
so

4037
02:35:54,630 --> 02:35:52,399
it's all

4038
02:35:56,550 --> 02:35:54,640
very consistent right but in a sense

4039
02:35:57,910 --> 02:35:56,560
though there is some expansion going on

4040
02:36:00,389 --> 02:35:57,920
because lower

4041
02:36:02,950 --> 02:36:00,399
sounds do get louder and louder sounds

4042
02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:02,960
are made okay well that's auto leveling

4043
02:36:08,070 --> 02:36:05,600
and we have a app called the levelator

4044
02:36:10,150 --> 02:36:08,080
that's what we use to do that processing

4045
02:36:12,710 --> 02:36:10,160
it's available for mac and pc and linux

4046
02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:12,720
called level later and you apply that to

4047
02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:14,319
an audio file and it does pretty good we

4048
02:36:17,830 --> 02:36:15,840
don't have to do it anymore we've been

4049
02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:17,840
doing that for several years but certain

4050
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:20,880
types of sounds will seem to impress you

4051
02:36:26,230 --> 02:36:23,520
as louder we have maybe a minute or two

4052
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:26,240
left chris just quickly can you tell us

4053
02:36:30,550 --> 02:36:28,240
there's anything new different

4054
02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:30,560
or compelling about your san luis valley

4055
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:32,160
project that you can bring us up to date

4056
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:32,880
on

4057
02:36:36,150 --> 02:36:34,720
well again uh you know it seems like

4058
02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:36,160
every time we start to get our ducks in

4059
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:38,240
a row something happens unfortunately

4060
02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:41,040
adrian our base station guy is like

4061
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:43,120
going through a real dramatic health

4062
02:36:47,830 --> 02:36:45,840
crisis uh his granddaughter is

4063
02:36:49,270 --> 02:36:47,840
in a coma right now and

4064
02:36:51,030 --> 02:36:49,280
everything's been kind of set on hold

4065
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:51,040
here for the last couple weeks we're

4066
02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:53,120
ready to go all we have to do is just

4067
02:36:57,190 --> 02:36:55,439
plug in the ethernet cable and

4068
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:57,200
make sure everything's mounted properly

4069
02:37:02,309 --> 02:36:59,600
and then get that signal up so we're

4070
02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:02,319
gonna poor wayne and andrew my teammates

4071
02:37:06,950 --> 02:37:04,240
on the project they're just champing at

4072
02:37:09,110 --> 02:37:06,960
the bit to get going our software is is

4073
02:37:10,710 --> 02:37:09,120
progressing in leaps and bounds

4074
02:37:13,349 --> 02:37:10,720
we really want to test this stuff out

4075
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:13,359
and give it a test drive and and uh i do

4076
02:37:16,309 --> 02:37:15,040
our prayers go out for adrian's

4077
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:16,319
granddaughter and we're really hoping

4078
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:18,000
for the best and hopefully he's going to

4079
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:19,439
be able to be in a

4080
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:21,280
place here in the next few days to to go

4081
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:22,720
ahead and just complete this last part

4082
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:25,040
of the initial uh install

4083
02:37:29,070 --> 02:37:26,880
the sans lewis valley project and if you

4084
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:29,080
check chris's website

4085
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:30,640
ourstrangeplanet.com it hasn't been

4086
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:32,479
updated in a while i'm sure chris will

4087
02:37:35,990 --> 02:37:34,720
get back to it soon he's been so busy

4088
02:37:38,790 --> 02:37:36,000
there's a place there where you can make

4089
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:38,800
a donation to chris and he'll use

4090
02:37:43,030 --> 02:37:40,880
all or most of that money i think i'm

4091
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:43,040
speaking for him to help

4092
02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:45,040
fund this project

4093
02:37:48,309 --> 02:37:46,800
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4094
02:37:50,070 --> 02:37:48,319
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4095
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:50,080
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4096
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:51,439
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4097
02:37:57,670 --> 02:37:55,040
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4098
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:57,680
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4099
02:38:05,630 --> 02:38:01,040
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4100
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:08,070
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4101
02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:09,040
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4102
02:38:12,950 --> 02:38:10,800
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4115
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4116
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:48,160
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4117
02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:50,240
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4118
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4119
02:39:11,270 --> 02:39:08,389
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4120
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4121
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4122
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